Optical design of surgical loupes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and construction of optical surgical loupes, specifically for dental applications. Participants explore the optics required for creating a set of loupes that function as small Galilean telescopes-microscopes, focusing on aspects such as lens configuration, magnification, and optical quality.

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Main Points Raised

  • Constantine seeks assistance in designing dental-surgical loupes with specific parameters, including a fixed focus of 400-500mm and a 2-3x zoom, and expresses a preference for high-quality optics.
  • Some participants caution that eyepiece design is complex and suggest purchasing loupes instead, noting the challenges related to exit pupil placement and aberrations.
  • Constantine acknowledges the difficulties but remains committed to experimenting with lens selection and design, indicating a willingness to learn through practical application.
  • A recommendation is made for Warren Smith's "Modern Lens Design" as a resource for understanding optical design principles and eyepiece layouts.
  • Another participant highlights the practical benefits of dental loupes, emphasizing their role in enhancing visibility and comfort during dental procedures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether to pursue a DIY approach to loupes or to purchase commercially available options. While some acknowledge the complexity of eyepiece design, others remain focused on experimentation and learning through the construction of custom loupes.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific lens configurations and optical principles that would best suit the intended design. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and knowledge levels among participants, which may influence the advice given.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to dental students, optical design enthusiasts, and professionals looking to understand the complexities of designing custom optical devices for surgical applications.

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First of all, I am new to this forum and I would like to thank you for accepting me here.

I am a dental student and I would like to make a set of dental-surgical loupes. The loupes are actually small Galilean telescopes-microscopes with a fixed focus at 400-500mm, Field Of View of around 6" and a 2-3x zoom. I want your help to find the optics needed for this project (preferably achromats, aspheric, but I will make several experiments if needed). I promise I will post all the progress here with photos. I understand that this is a forum for discussing classical phusics but it is the one of the only forum I know where people with optical design experience and deep knowledge of optics come together. I would like to use high quality optics like edmund, zeiss or something similar. I need someone to help me with the ray traycing and the desirable lens configuration. I am currently thinking about a tessar configuration. Your ideas? Please help me.

Thanks again,

Constantine

PS I already own a set but I want to experiment on making my own. I do this solely for experimental (and fun) reasons and not commercial.
 

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What little I know about eyepiece design suggests you are better off buying one. Eyepieces are very complicated devices because the exit pupil is located behind the physical lens- a well designed eyepiece puts the exit pupil at the entrance pupil to your eye. The space between (the 'relief') means the design is highly asymmetric and susceptible to a lot of aberrations.

http://www.surgicalacuity.com/index/surgicalacuity-products-surgical-loupes-buyers-guide-2
http://www.quadibloc.com/science/opt04.htm

And those are the cheap ones.
 
Hello, thanks for the answer. I understand the inherit difficulties of this project. I use daily a zeiss g 2.5 ttl loupe system (one of the more expensive ones) and I also own a pair of surgical aquity (orascoptic) loupes (they are almost the same quality as zeiss and not much cheaper). As I mentioned earlier I want to experiment on constructing my own. Could you help me choosing the lenses? I will try to design the loupes using the principles you mentioned. I will also buy some with different f s and start experimenting really soon. Again thanks for the comment.
 
Eyepiece design is too complex for me to give any meaningful detail here- I recommend Warren Smith's "Modern Lens Design" as a reference- not only are there principles of optical design, but 29 eyepiece layouts (with full lens prescriptions and performance analysis) are given.
 
Andy Resnick said:
Eyepiece design is too complex for me to give any meaningful detail here- I recommend Warren Smith's "Modern Lens Design" as a reference- not only are there principles of optical design, but 29 eyepiece layouts (with full lens prescriptions and performance analysis) are given.

Thanks for the recommendation. I will try to acquire a copy through my university's library. Maybe one of the layouts will fit to my needs.

EDIT: Ha I found a copy here Modern lens design /
Writer: Smith, Warren J.
New York : McGraw-Hill, c2005. c2005.
Topic:
Lenses -- Design and construction -- Handbooks, manuals, etc.
Series
McGraw-Hill professional engineering. Electronic engineering.
ISBN:
0071438300 (acid-free paper)
9780071438308 (acid-free paper)
Description:
xvi, 631 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.
Edition:
2nd ed.

Available-in library
 
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Dental Loupes will enable you to move your head within this range, with no loss of focus. You will be able to see the entire arch of the mouth rather than just a few teeth.
Magnification loupes are an essential tool for every dental hygienist. They are designed to protect your eyes and magnify the working area.

Surgical Loupe have features of independent focusing. These lens are lightweight which can be adjusted like binoculars. Provides additional comfort to around dental and eyes. It provides a high impressive performance with robust frame making work easy going.
 

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