Optical Path Length Difference & Constructive Interference: Normal Incidence

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The discussion revolves around the optical path length difference and conditions for constructive interference when light strikes a transparent film at normal incidence. Participants are exploring the implications of the optical path length formula and the effects of phase shifts due to reflection at boundaries.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the optical path length difference and its application to constructive interference conditions. Questions about the implications of phase shifts and the relationship between film thickness and wavelength are raised.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the conditions for constructive interference, with some participants suggesting formulas involving thickness and wavelength. There is acknowledgment of phase shifts due to reflections, but no consensus on the exact conditions has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the phase shifts associated with reflections at different boundaries and how these affect the conditions for constructive and destructive interference. The context of exam preparation adds urgency to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Light falls at normal incidence onto a transparent film on a substrate as shown
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i. what is the optical path length difference in the case of normal incidence?
ii. if nf>no and nf>ns, what is the condition for constructive interference in the case of normal incidence? explain your answer.


Homework Equations


OPL=nd


The Attempt at a Solution


ok I am studying for an exam and this qn has been on the last 2 exams, and i have absolutely no idea how to do it, it can't be that, just an understanding issue. ok i know that the OPL=nd, i got no idea what the questions is asking me, or how to do it, please can anyone give me some info?
 
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anyone is it something like OPLn(AB+BA)=2nt?
 
anyone
 
Your condition for constructive interference is such that twice the thickness of the glass is equal to an integer number of wavelength (the wavelength is taken from inside the film) MINUS Pi (because the rays reflected off the air-film boundary will be given a Pi phase boost because nf>no, however the rays reflecting off the film-substrate boundary will not, since ns<nf)
 
so it it just for constructive, 2ntCos(theta)=m*lambda and for destructive 2ntCos(theta)=(m+0.5)*lambda, when m is an integer?
 
so it it just for constructive, 2ntCos(theta)=m*lambda and for destructive 2ntCos(theta)=(m+0.5)*lambda, when m is an integer?
 
No, but you almost have the right idea. As Maverick said, you need to account for the extra π phase shift that happens at A, but not at B. This is essentially equivalent to adding half a wavelength to the path difference.
 
ahh ok... so then for constructive interference it is the opposite? 2nt=(0.5+m)lambda... its the A and B part I am confused about, becasue some gets reflected and some goes straight through.. or something.

i understand but still lost lol, for part a. the phase difference is pi?
 
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or is it (m-0.5)lambda?
 
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sorry for some reason my computer is laggy and saying the same thing over and over again every time i make a post...
 
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fredrick08 said:
ahh ok... so then for constructive interference it is the opposite? 2nt=(0.5+m)lambda

fredrick08 said:
or is it (m-0.5)lambda?

Yes, either one of those would be fine.
 

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