Diffraction Grating - Calculating Ruling Width

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the ruling width in diffraction gratings, specifically addressing the equation for intensity, which is given by I(θ) = I₀ (sin²(Nφ/2) / sin²(φ/2)), where φ = (2πd sin(θ) / λ). The resolving power is defined as R = λ / Δλ = N m, with N being the number of illuminated lines and m the order. The participants clarify that the ruling width (b) must be less than the wavelength (λ) to ensure significant intensity at higher orders, and that the first zero intensity occurs at λ = b sin(θ).

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of diffraction principles and equations
  • Familiarity with the concepts of intensity and resolving power in optics
  • Knowledge of single-slit diffraction patterns
  • Basic proficiency in trigonometric functions and their applications in physics
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of the intensity equation for diffraction gratings
  • Learn about the relationship between ruling width and wavelength in diffraction gratings
  • Explore the implications of resolving power in spectroscopic applications
  • Investigate single-slit diffraction and its impact on grating performance
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in optics, particularly those studying or working with diffraction gratings, spectroscopists, and physics educators seeking to deepen their understanding of light behavior in grating systems.

Martin89
Messages
25
Reaction score
1

Homework Statement


Diffraction.png


The Attempt at a Solution


20180422_191805.jpg


Hi All!

This is probably going to have a very simple answer. I'm stuck on question (b)(ii). The only equation I can find with the ruling width in it is the one shown and I can't find a way to calculate is as I don't know Beta.

Thanks
 

Attachments

  • Diffraction.png
    Diffraction.png
    33.7 KB · Views: 902
  • 20180422_191805.jpg
    20180422_191805.jpg
    15.4 KB · Views: 739
Physics news on Phys.org
The basic equation of the intensity for a grating of ## N ## equally spaced lines separated by a distance ## d ## is ## I(\theta)=I_o \frac{\sin^2(N \phi)/2)}{\sin^2(\phi/2)} ##where ## \phi =\frac{ 2 \pi d \, \sin(\theta)}{\lambda} ##. The primary maxima are found when both numerator and denominator are equal to zero, and in the limit as the denominator approaches ## 0 ##, the intensity of the maxima ## I=I_o N^2 ## at these locations. The resolving power is given by ## R=\frac{\lambda}{\Delta \lambda}=N m ## where ## N ## is the number of illuminated lines and ## m ## is the order. This can be derived from the intensity equation, but for someone not specializing in spectroscopy, simply using this resolving power formula is sufficient. ## \\ ## For the second question, (the width of the ruling), I'm not sure what they are asking. Maybe it has a simple answer, but they didn't seem to give sufficient information for that part. ## \\ ## See also this previous homework posting: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/diffraction-grating-question-dispersion-and-resolving.897090/ ## \\ ## Editing: I think I figured out what part (ii) is asking. This higher order will occur at a fairly wide angle ## \theta ## on the spectrometer. In order to have the intensity be appreciable at that angle, the single-slit diffraction intensity factor ## i(\theta)= \frac{\sin^2(\phi'/2)}{(\phi'/2)^2} ## where ## \phi'=\frac{2 \pi b \, \sin(\theta)}{\lambda} ## that is multiplied by the above interference result to get the complete intensity needs to be greater than ## .1 ## or thereabouts. (For this formula, with a reflection grating, you can assume ## b ## is the width of the ruling). ## \\ ## [Edit: "In principle", the order ## m ## maximum from above needs to occur inside of, really well inside of, the first zero intensity of the single slit diffraction pattern. That first zero occurs at ## \theta ## such that ## \lambda=b \sin(\theta) ##. In addition, might it be a good answer to say ## b ## should be such that ## b<\lambda ##? I'll let you decide that, based on the approximate value that you get for ## \sin(\theta) ## at the maximum of order ## m ## ]. ## \\ ## I think the second answer I gave here, ( the part [Edit: "In principle"..., etc.], is simpler, and probably better than trying to mathematically analyze the single-slit diffraction intensity function.
 
Last edited:
Charles Link said:
The basic equation of the intensity for a grating of ## N ## equally spaced lines separated by a distance ## d ## is ## I(\theta)=I_o \frac{\sin^2(N \phi)/2)}{\sin^2(\phi/2)} ##where ## \phi =\frac{ 2 \pi d \, \sin(\theta)}{\lambda} ##. The primary maxima are found when both numerator and denominator are equal to zero, and in the limit as the denominator approaches ## 0 ##, the intensity of the maxima ## I=I_o N^2 ## at these locations. The resolving power is given by ## R=\frac{\lambda}{\Delta \lambda}=N m ## where ## N ## is the number of illuminated lines and ## m ## is the order. This can be derived from the intensity equation, but for someone not specializing in spectroscopy, simply using this resolving power formula is sufficient. ## \\ ## For the second question, (the width of the ruling), I'm not sure what they are asking. Maybe it has a simple answer, but they didn't seem to give sufficient information for that part. ## \\ ## See also this previous homework posting: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/diffraction-grating-question-dispersion-and-resolving.897090/ ## \\ ## Editing: I think I figured out what part (ii) is asking. This higher order will occur at a fairly wide angle ## \theta ## on the spectrometer. In order to have the intensity be appreciable at that angle, the single-slit diffraction intensity factor ## i(\theta)= \frac{\sin^2(\phi'/2)}{(\phi'/2)^2} ## where ## \phi'=\frac{2 \pi b \, \sin(\theta)}{\lambda} ## that is multiplied by the above interference result to get the complete intensity needs to be greater than ## .1 ## or thereabouts. (For this formula, with a reflection grating, you can assume ## b ## is the width of the ruling). ## \\ ## [Edit: "In principle", the order ## m ## maximum from above needs to occur inside of, really well inside of, the first zero intensity of the single slit diffraction pattern. That first zero occurs at ## \theta ## such that ## \lambda=b \sin(\theta) ##. In addition, might it be a good answer to say ## b ## should be such that ## b<\lambda ##? I'll let you decide that, based on the approximate value that you get for ## \sin(\theta) ## at the maximum of order ## m ## ]. ## \\ ## I think the second answer I gave here, ( the part [Edit: "In principle"..., etc.], is simpler, and probably better than trying to mathematically analyze the single-slit diffraction intensity function.

Thanks a lot! I managed to briefly see my professor this morning and he said exactly the same thing as you :smile:
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Charles Link

Similar threads

  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
8K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
27K
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
5K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K