Optimization find dimensions problem

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The discussion focuses on finding the dimensions of a poster that minimizes area while maintaining a fixed printed area of 384 cm², considering specific margins. The initial equation used, (a-6)(b-4)=384, was incorrect as it didn't account for the total margins correctly. After deriving the area function A(b) and its derivative, the user calculated dimensions but realized the mistake in the margin equation. Correcting this led to the right solution, prompting further questions about the problem.
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Homework Statement



The top and bottom margins of a poster are each 6 cm and the side margins are each 4 cm. If the area of printed material on the poster is fixed at 384 cm2, find the dimensions of the poster with the smallest area.

Homework Equations



Area of a rectangle is length times width

The Attempt at a Solution



So I assumed that the 384 cm2 formed a constraint like so:

(a-6)(b-4)=384

and then using this equation I solved for a to be able to substitute it into the area formula:

ab-4a-6b+24=384

ab-4a=360+6b

a(b-4)=360+6b

a= \frac {360+6b}{b-4}

so then i can substitute a in A=ab so that A will be a function of b:

A=ab

A=\frac{360+6b}{b-4} b

A(b)=\frac{360b+6b^{2}}{b-4}

ok, so then i take the derivative of this A(b) now which turns out to be:

A'(b)=\frac {6b^{2}-48b-1440}{(b-4)^{2}}

then i take the top, complete the square and then set it equal to zero:

6(b-4)^{2}-1536 = 0

6(b-4)^{2} = 1536

(b-4)^{2} = 256

b-4 = \sqrt{256}= \pm 16

b= \pm 16 +4

I chose to leave out the negative square root as it makes no sense when we are talking about lenth, so with b=20, take that back and plug it into the a=b equation:

a = \frac {360+6(20)} {20-4} = 30

and I get a = 20 and b=30 and if you take off the margins and multiply them at 16*24 you get 384 cm2, but alas, this is not correct. Where did I go wrong at?
 
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Asphyxiated said:

Homework Statement



The top and bottom margins of a poster are each 6 cm and the side margins are each 4 cm. If the area of printed material on the poster is fixed at 384 cm2, find the dimensions of the poster with the smallest area.

Homework Equations



Area of a rectangle is length times width

The Attempt at a Solution



So I assumed that the 384 cm2 formed a constraint like so:

(a-6)(b-4)=384

and then using this equation I solved for a to be able to substitute it into the area formula:

ab-4a-6b+24=384

ab-4a=360+6b

a(b-4)=360+6b

a= \frac {360+6b}{b-4}

so then i can substitute a in A=ab so that A will be a function of b:

A=ab

A=\frac{360+6b}{b-4} b

A(b)=\frac{360b+6b^{2}}{b-4}

ok, so then i take the derivative of this A(b) now which turns out to be:

A'(b)=\frac {6b^{2}-48b-1440}{(b-4)^{2}}

then i take the top, complete the square and then set it equal to zero:

6(b-4)^{2}-1536 = 0

6(b-4)^{2} = 1536

(b-4)^{2} = 256

b-4 = \sqrt{256}= \pm 16

b= \pm 16 +4

I chose to leave out the negative square root as it makes no sense when we are talking about lenth, so with b=20, take that back and plug it into the a=b equation:

a = \frac {360+6(20)} {20-4} = 30

and I get a = 20 and b=30 and if you take off the margins and multiply them at 16*24 you get 384 cm2, but alas, this is not correct. Where did I go wrong at?
Right near the beginning (emphasis added).
The top and bottom margins of a poster are each 6 cm and the side margins are each 4 cm.

Your equation (a - 6)(a - 4) = 384 doesn't take into account the two horizontal and two vertical margins.
 
thanks, came out right this time, now i got another question posted though... lol
 
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