Optimization Problem involving a wire

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The problem involves optimizing the area enclosed by a piece of wire that is 10 meters long, which is cut into two segments: one segment is formed into a square and the other into an equilateral triangle. The objective is to determine how to cut the wire to maximize or minimize the total area enclosed.

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  • Participants discuss the equations for the areas of the square and triangle based on the lengths of the wire segments. There is an exploration of simplifying a derived expression related to the optimization problem, with specific focus on finding common denominators and further simplification techniques.

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Some participants have provided guidance on arithmetic simplification and have confirmed the correctness of certain steps taken. There is ongoing exploration of simplification methods, particularly regarding rationalizing denominators, but no consensus or final resolution has been reached.

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The discussion is constrained by the need to adhere to homework rules, which may limit the extent of assistance provided. Participants are focused on the mathematical manipulation of expressions rather than on providing direct solutions to the optimization problem.

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1. A piece of wire 10 m long is cut into two pieces. One piece is bent into a square and the other is bent into an equilateral triangle. How should the wire be cut so that the total area enclosed is (a) a maximum? (b) A minimum?



2. A_{s}(x) = x^{2}, A_{t}(x)=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{4}x^{2}



3. The first equation is the length of the side of a square and the second is the length of a side of an equilateral triangle and the height of the triangle.L_{s}=\frac{x}{4}, L_{s2}=\frac{10-x}{3}, h=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{6} (10-x), A(x)=\frac{x^{2}}{16}+\frac{1}{6}(10-x)*\frac{\sqrt{3}}{6}(10-x) = \frac{x^{2}}{16}+\frac{\sqrt{3}}{36}(10-x)^{2}; A'(x)=\frac{x}{8}-\frac{\sqrt{3}}{18}(10-x); x= \frac{\frac{5\sqrt{3}}{9}}{\frac{1}{8}+\frac{\sqrt{3}}{18}}=\frac{\frac{5\sqrt{3}}{9}}{\frac{1}{4}+\frac{\sqrt{3}}{9}} How do I simplify this?
 
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Arithmetic is a good start. Can you find a common denominator for the denominator?
 
If I simplify it, here's how it looks, \frac{20\sqrt{3}}{9+4\sqrt{3}} and if I multiply by 2, I get\frac{40\sqrt{3}}{9+4\sqrt{3}}. Does this look right?
 
That looks OK.
 
frosty8688 said:
If I simplify it, here's how it looks, \frac{20\sqrt{3}}{9+4\sqrt{3}} and if I multiply by 2, I get\frac{40\sqrt{3}}{9+4\sqrt{3}}. Does this look right?
You can simplify that a bit more. Do you know a trick for getting rid of terms like a+√b from denominators?
 

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