Optimizing Beam Strength: Finding the Dimensions for Maximum Performance

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves optimizing the dimensions of a rectangular beam cut from a cylindrical log, with a focus on maximizing the beam's strength, which is related to its width and depth. The log has a diameter of 30 cm, and participants are exploring how to relate the dimensions of the beam to the log's geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to clarify the definitions of the variables involved, particularly the meaning of "depth" in the context of the problem. There is discussion about the relationship between the beam's dimensions and the log's diameter, as well as the formulation of the strength equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the relationships between the variables. Some have suggested that the strength formula involves a product rather than a sum, and others are exploring geometric relationships that could help eliminate variables. There is no clear consensus yet, but participants are actively engaging with the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the length of the beam does not factor into the strength optimization, and there is a mention of potential constraints regarding material waste when milling the beam. The diameter of the log is a critical piece of information that needs to be integrated into the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


A rectangular beam is cut out of a cylindrical log with diameter 30cm. Given that the strength of a beam is jointly proportional to its width and the square of its depth, find the dimensions of the beam with maximum strength.



Homework Equations


implicit differentation



The Attempt at a Solution


Frankly, I do not know where to start with this question. I think it's the strength reference that threw me off from this. From what I can tell, S is equal to w+d^2 (where S is strength, w is width and d is depth). Next I need to find another relation to end up with one variable to successfully use the Algorithm for Extreme Values and then find the dimensions. I know I will have to bring the diameter of the log into the problem here somehow, but I am not sure how to do this. If anyone could be of help here it would be great. Thanks in advance.
 
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What's depth?
(the length of the rod?)

If it's length, then I think you can get infinite strength (looks somewhat wrong).

It's w.d^2 (not w+d^2) btw as it says "and".

If depth is the base height .. then this is a simple problem. You are given a,b, and a^2+b^2 = diameter^2
 
The depth is the height of the beam, which will be something less than the diameter of the log from which the beam is cut. The way to visualize this is by drawing a circle that represents a cross section of the tree. Two vertical cuts and two horizontal cuts will produce a beam with a rectangular cross section.

What this problem is saying is that, because gravity works vertically, it's better to have a tall beam than a wide beam (both beams are the same length).

The length of the beam, which would be the length of the section of tree from which the beam is cut, doesn't enter into this problem.
 
I have figured that depth would be the height, and that then gives me 2 variables I have to work with. What I am still lost on is what the formulas are for this question; I know one will be the strength formula and the other a relationship used to cancel out one of the variables. I just seem to be stuck on finding the other relationship.
 
Unless you waste a lot of wood milling the beam, the length of the beam's diagonal will be the radius of the log. That should give you another relationship between width and height.
 

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