Orbital Mechanics Angular Momentum

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The discussion focuses on the definitions of angular momentum in orbital motion, highlighting two interpretations: one involving radial velocity and the other involving tangential velocity. The first definition, h = r x r_dot, is questioned for its validity since r and r_dot are in the same direction, suggesting it may not accurately represent angular momentum. The correct expression for angular momentum is clarified as L = m r x v, where v is the velocity vector. The conversation concludes that the definitions can be context-dependent, but emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the terms involved in each formula. Understanding the relationship between position, velocity, and angular momentum is crucial in orbital mechanics.
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Hello all,

I have a question regarding the precise definition of angular momentum in orbital motion.

I see one definition says angular momentum h, position, r, and radial velocity, r_dot, are related as follows:
h = r x r_dot.

However, I also see one definition that says h is related to r and tangential velocity as follows:
h = r2θ_dot = r* (r*θ_dot)
Where θ_dot is the angular velocity, which makes rθ_dot the tangential velocity.

How come both definitions can be correct at times?
 
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tnich said:
I don't think your first definition makes sense. ##\vec r \times \vec {\dot r} = 0## since ##\vec r## and ##\vec {\dot r}## are in the same direction.
What would make sense is angular momentum ##\vec L =m \vec r \times \vec v##.
It is exactly as written in the book.
Actually, I just figured it out...
In an orbit, the r is defined from the center of the inertial frame. So r2 is rotated from r1 but the root of the vector is still at the inertial center. That means delta_r is a tangential vector that connects r1's vector head to r2's vector head. Making r_dot actually in the direction of the angular velocity.
 
FQVBSina said:
I see one definition says angular momentum h, position, r, and radial velocity, r_dot, are related as follows:
h = r x r_dot.
You may want to check the source of this definition a little more carefully. Here ##r## should be position and ##\dot{r}## should be velocity (not radial velocity) and the expression should be ##r \times m \dot{r}##
 

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