Ordinary Differential equations question

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a third order constant coefficient homogeneous differential equation and the properties of its solutions, specifically focusing on the Wronskian determinant of the solutions. The original poster is trying to understand the implications of the Wronskian being positive for two solutions while being zero for three solutions at a specific point.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to connect the properties of the Wronskian to Abel's theorem and questions the significance of evaluating the Wronskian at zero. They express uncertainty about how the conditions of the Wronskian relate to the linear dependence of the solutions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the Wronskian's properties. Some participants have raised questions about the clarity of the original poster's attachment, indicating that not all information is accessible. There is no explicit consensus yet on the truth of the statement posed by the original poster.

Contextual Notes

One participant noted an issue with accessing an attachment that may contain relevant information, which could affect the clarity of the discussion. The original poster is specifically focused on a problem labeled as number 17, indicating a structured homework context.

Hutchyy
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
#17 If you can't see the picture: Suppose that y1, y2, and y3 are solutions to a third order constant coefficient homogeneous differential equation. Suppose further that for all real t, W(y1,y2)(t)>0, but also W(y1,y2,y3)(0)=0. Then there exists c1 and c2 such that c1y1(t) + c2y2(t) =y3(t) for all real t. Is this true, false or maybe true? I know it must have something to do with abel’s theorem but I can’t really figure out how it applies.. ,

what is the significance of plugging in 0 for ’t’ in the wronskian?

I'm thinking its something that has to do with abel's theorem but I can't make any connections as to how having a positive wronskian relates to a bigger wronskian with 0 plugged into equalling 0. https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/90663
 
Physics news on Phys.org
There's something wrong with your attachment. I can't view it.
 
Screen Shot 2015-10-23 at 11.37.35 PM.png
Screen Shot 2015-10-23 at 11.37.35 PM.png
 
When y= 0 (along the x-axis), dy/dx= 0. Which of the direction fields has that property? When x= 0 (along the y axis) dy/dx= y^2. Which of the direction fields has that property?
 
Thanks halls of ivy! But I got that one! I meant number 17 the word problem
 

Similar threads

Replies
19
Views
4K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K