Oscillation Problem: Find Period and Potential Energy

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The discussion revolves around a mass "m" subjected to an external force described by the equation Fx=-4*sin(3*pi*x). Participants are tasked with finding the short oscillation period and the potential energy as a function of the coordinate. The subject area includes concepts of oscillations and potential energy in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between force and motion, with one attempting to derive the oscillation period using approximations related to harmonic motion. Others question the assumptions made regarding the short oscillation and the nature of potential energy.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing various approaches and questioning the assumptions involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between force and potential energy, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to consider the original force when determining potential energy, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the problem's requirements. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the definitions and relationships between the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


mass "m" object is located near the origin of the coordinate system. External force was exerted on the object depending on the coordinate by the formula of Fx=-4*sin(3*pi*x). Find the short oscillation period, and the potential energy depending on the coordinate.

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not really sure what is the short oscillation period... but
since there is only 1 force:
F=Fx=ma
-4sin(3*pi*x)=m*(d^2*x)/dt^2

and assuming that the object will move very little (because it's said to be SHORT osccilation period ?)
sin(3*pi*x) is approximately 3*pi*x .
and since
2*x=(d^2*x)/dt^2 is the formula of the harmonic oscillation :
we find ω=12*pi/m
and the T=2*pi*√(m/(12*pi)) ?

and also assuming that in SHORT oscillation :
it is almost like a spring :
F=-12*pi*x=-kx
k=12*pi

potential energy is Ep= k*x^2/2=6*pi*x^2 ?
 
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Misheel said:

Homework Statement


mass "m" object is located near the origin of the coordinate system. External force was exerted on the object depending on the coordinate by the formula of Fx=-4*sin(3*pi*x). Find the short oscillation period, and the potential energy depending on the coordinate.

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not really sure what is the short oscillation period... but
since there is only 1 force:
F=Fx=ma
-4sin(3*pi*x)=m*(d^2*x)/dt^2

and assuming that the object will move very little (because it's said to be SHORT osccilation period ?)
sin(3*pi*x) is approximately 3*pi*x .
and since
2*x=(d^2*x)/dt^2 is the formula of the harmonic oscillation :
we find ω=12*pi/m
and the T=2*pi*√(m/(12*pi)) ?
This is fine.

and also assuming that in SHORT oscillation :
it is almost like a spring :
F=-12*pi*x=-kx
k=12*pi

potential energy is Ep= k*x^2/2=6*pi*x^2 ?
I think the problem is looking for the potential corresponding to the original force, not the approximation.
 
Thank You for your reply, Vela

umm...then, i have no other ideas other than using FORCE to solve this problem :PP which is :
F=-kx
Fx=F=-4*sin(3*pi*x)=-kx from this
we find k=4*sin(3*pi*x)/x
so Ep=kx^2/2=2*sin(3*pi*x)*x ?

is it right ? :P

Thanks
 
How are potential energy and force related in general?
 
vela said:
How are potential energy and force related in general?

Maybe the work done by force is divided into object's konetik and potential energy ?
 

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