Other ways to do this problem? (R^n topology)

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The problem involves demonstrating a property of closed sets in R^n, specifically that for a closed set A and a point x outside of A, there exists a point y in A such that the distance from y to x equals the distance from x to A. The discussion revolves around different approaches to this problem and the implications of compactness in the context of continuous functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore various methods, including the use of closed balls and sequences converging to points in A. Some question the necessity of sequences versus direct application of the maximum-minimum theorem for continuous functions on compact sets. Others suggest considering compact subsets of A to simplify the problem.

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The discussion is active, with multiple interpretations and methods being explored. Some participants offer insights into the relationship between compactness and the problem, while others reflect on previous solutions and their completeness. No consensus has been reached on the most effective approach.

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There is mention of the assumption that A is not compact, leading to considerations of compact subsets. Participants also note the potential complexity of proofs related to continuous mappings in compact spaces.

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The problem is to show that if A is closed in R^n, and x is outside of A, then there is a point y in A such that d(y,x) = d(x,A).

My method of solution involves letting b = d(x,A) = inf{d(x,z) : z in A} and considering a closed ball of radius b + delta centered on x, and then constructing a sequence of points {z_n} in [itex]\overline{B}_{b+\delta}(x)\cap A[/itex] such that d(z_n,x)-->b (possible because b is an infimum). Because the ball is compact, there is a convergeant subsequence to z_n, but because each z_n is in A and A is closed, that limit is in A. I then show that the distance btw this limit and x is b by using the triangle inequality.

However, I had solved this problem at work in my head 3 weeks ago and I remember this was not the answer I had found. My solution from 3 weeks ago was swifter somehow, I remember. Anyone got any idea what it could have been?
 
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If A was compact, and if we knew that continuous functions [itex]f:X\to\mathbb{R}[/itex], where X is a compact metric space, always reach their minimum and maximum somewhere, then we could just note that mapping [itex]y\mapsto d(y,x)[/itex] must reach it's minimum somewhere in A.

Since A is not compact, it should be first somehow showed that it is sufficient to study some compact part of it, like set [itex]A\cap \overline{B}(0,R)[/itex] with some large R. And if the theorem about continuous mappings out of compact metric spaces is not known, then its proof is probably equally complicated as your proof. So I'm not sure it this is really any easier. Although going through some more general theorems is usually more elegant, in some sense.
 
A is not empty. Pick an arbitray point a in A. Now let r be the distance from x to a. The thing you're looking for must be smaller than r, now, is there anyway to consider only points that are at most distance r from x and lying in A, I wonder...
 
Other than looking at [itex]\overline{B}_{r}(x)\cap A[/itex]? (which comes down to my method essentially)
 
It comes down to the fact that a continuous function on a compact subset of R^n has a maximium, quasar - there is no point or need to invoke sequences. It is quite simple - you can assume A is a compact set.
 
Well, ok, but this is just the method of jostpuurand he was correct that the max-min thm on compact is now known at this time. :-p

But thanks for your input matt & jostpuurand. I guess my original solution was just erroneous or was and incomplete version of that of post #1.
 

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