Oxygen Transformation: A Puzzling Phenomenon

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the transformation of atomic oxygen when it encounters free electrons, exploring the implications of electron interactions on elemental identity and atomic structure. Participants examine the relationship between atomic nuclei and electron shells, as well as the nature of ions.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why atomic oxygen does not transform into fluorine or argon upon meeting free electrons.
  • Another participant asserts that elemental identity is determined by the nucleus rather than electron shells, defining the process of gaining or losing electrons as ionization.
  • A subsequent post reiterates the claim about elemental identity and introduces a question regarding the effects of attracting an electron to the P-layer of oxygen.
  • Another participant corrects the previous claim about the charge of the oxygen nucleus, stating it is 8, while its atomic mass is 16, emphasizing that these values do not change with the addition of electrons.
  • A later post repeats the question about the effects of electron attraction to the P-layer, indicating a focus on the implications of electron interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the charge of the oxygen nucleus and its implications, with multiple competing views on the nature of atomic transformation and electron interactions remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about electron interactions and the definitions of atomic charge and mass, which are not fully clarified or agreed upon.

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Free electrons does not affect oxygen. Or not?
Hi, guys.

Just found a missing thing in my brain: if atomic oxygen will meet free electron somewhere why doesn't it become fluorine or even argone?
 
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Because the assignation of elements is based on the nucleus, not the electron shells. If an atom gives away or takes in additional electrons, it is called an ion.
 
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Orodruin said:
Because the assignation of elements is based on the nucleus, not the electron shells. If an atom gives away or takes in additional electrons, it is called an ion.
But the charge of the nucleolus is 16. And the outer layer is missing two electrons. What would happen if electron will be attracted by P-layer?
 
Pandus said:
But the charge of the nucleolus is 16.
No, the charge of the oxygen nucleus is 8. Its atomic mass is 16. Neither of which changes by adding an electron.
 
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