Parachutist's fall is because of balanced force or unbalanced force?

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The discussion revolves around the forces acting on a parachutist during free fall, specifically examining whether the motion is due to balanced or unbalanced forces. Participants explore concepts related to gravity, air resistance, and terminal velocity, incorporating Newton's laws of motion and fluid dynamics.

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  • One participant asserts that a parachutist's fall is initially due to gravity, with air resistance increasing until a constant velocity is reached.
  • Another participant suggests applying Newton's 1st law to understand the motion when forces equalize, welcoming further exploration of the topic.
  • A participant questions whether the object moves at a constant velocity despite having zero acceleration, seeking clarification on the relationship between velocity and acceleration.
  • It is noted that if the net force is zero, the acceleration will also be zero, leading to constant velocity.
  • One participant introduces the concept of viscosity and its role in determining terminal velocity, stating that the viscous force equals the weight of the object at terminal velocity.
  • Another participant provides specific velocity values before and after the parachute opens, indicating a significant change in drag force and terminal velocity.
  • Discussion includes how the radius of the parachutist affects velocity, with a larger radius resulting in decreased velocity after the parachute opens.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the clarification received during the discussion.
  • There is a technical inquiry about tagging users in replies, indicating engagement with the forum's features.

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Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the interpretation of forces acting on the parachutist. While some concepts are clarified, multiple competing views on the relationship between forces and motion remain unresolved.

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Participants reference Newton's laws and fluid dynamics without fully resolving the implications of these principles on the parachutist's motion. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of forces and the conditions under which they apply.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in physics, particularly those exploring concepts of motion, forces, and fluid dynamics in the context of parachuting and terminal velocity.

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A parachutist's fall is due to gravity of the Earth which pulls down the weight of the parachutist towards it. Initially there is no air resistance. The air resistance increases and acts against gravity. There is a phase the velocity is constant. When parachute opens, air resistance increases significantly and the parachutist accelerates upwards and velocity decreases until they balance. My question is that if the forces were balanced, the Air Resistance= Gravity and net force on the parachutist is 0 N, how come does the Parachutist move?

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Try applying Newton's 1st law of motion to the parachutist at the moment when the two opposing forces equalise.

And welcome to PF, by the way!
 
Bandersnatch said:
Try applying Newton's 1st law of motion to the parachutist at the moment when the two opposing forces equalise.

And welcome to PF, by the way!

:cool: Thank you Bandersnatch but here do you mean to say that the object moves at a constant velocity of 9.8 m s-1 irrespective of the acceleration, which is 0.
 
As the 1st law says, the object will move at whatever velocity it has, unless an unbalanced force acts on it.
If the net force is 0, the acceleration will be 0.
So, an object moves at a constant velocity not "irrespective of acceleration" but because the acceleration is 0.

What is the velocity a falling object will have when the air drag force becomes equal to the gravitational force?(clue: it's mentioned on the graph in your link)
 
do you know about viscosity?

force experienced by a body with radius 'r' traveling through a fluid of viscosity 'η' with speed 'v' is
F=6∏ηrv
body moves with a constant velocity called terminal velocity 'V' when external force (weight in this case) equals viscous force

so, 6∏ηrV=mg
V=mg/6∏ηr
air is also a fluid and has viscosity
viscous force is directly proportional to radius and velocity
if radius is large velocity will be small and vise versa
so all bodies will fall with a specific velocity unless its density is smaller than air like hydrogen
 
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Bandersnatch Before the parachute opens its 50 m s-1 and after it open its 5 m s-1 according to the graph.
 
before the parachute opens radius of cross section is small (of man).so velocity is large .
after it opens radius increases,so velocity decreases
 
Thank You very much... I understood it finally, @basheer uddin and @bandersnatch... can you please telp me how to tag users in a reply?
 
inqstudent said:
Bandersnatch Before the parachute opens its 50 m s-1 and after it open its 5 m s-1 according to the graph.
Yes, it's called terminal velocity. It's different before and after, because the drag force is different - which is basically what basheer uddin is saying.
At those two velocities the acceleration is 0 and the Newton's 1st law applies.

edit: do you mean how to quote posts? There's a "quote" button in the lower-right corner of each post. The "M" button next to it let's you quote multiple posts.
 
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