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Reason for motion after terminal velocity

  1. Jan 10, 2015 #1
    Hi,

    Let some object hang by a string. So no motion since weight was counter balanced no net force. Now string is cut. Object is falling under gravity and experiences air resistance. Terminal velocity is reached when weight is equal to the air resistance. So no net force and no net acceleration after terminal velocity. But why does the object continue to fall if there is no net force acting on it, why doesnt it just hang in mid air dead stopped ?

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  3. Jan 10, 2015 #2

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    "Terminal" does not mean "end of path." The object no longer accelerates when there is no net force acting on it; NOR does it decelerate.
     
  4. Jan 10, 2015 #3

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    In order for the ball to slow down to a stop from terminal velocity, there would have to be an acceleration, or a deceleration as the case may be. For this acceleration or deceleration to occur, there would have to be a non-zero net force on the ball. Terminal velocity is the point at which the force of air resistance is exactly equal to the force of gravity. For it to slow down or stop, the force of air resistance would have to be much greater than the force of gravity. When the ball is at terminal velocity, there may not be a net force on it, but there is certainly still net momentum.
     
  5. Jan 10, 2015 #4
    Doesn't the force of gravity increase as mass approaches, terminal velocity should therefore increase slightly shouldn't it? Does the pressure gradient cancel it?
     
  6. Jan 10, 2015 #5

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    And air density increases, decreasing it, and the problem is asked at a level that assumes both are constant, just to introduce the concept of "balanced" forces.
     
  7. Jan 10, 2015 #6
    Just clarifying, I immediately thought from the title "motion after terminal velocity" would mean change as in decrease in thicker air but then I thought about like you stated HS physics starts out with the basic truth that it accelerates quickly when the string is cut steadily decreasing acceleration until terminal velocity is achieved countering constant air resistance.
     
  8. Jan 10, 2015 #7

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    This isn't Road Runner physics you're dealing with here. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Jan 10, 2015 #8
    the ball continues at the top speed it has reached based on the amount of air resistance its encountered. the only way to float the ball is if the air resistance was as great as the gravity force in which case the ball would never have accelerated at all and simply floated there after the string was cut. it could be said to have attained terminal velocity without ever moving.
     
  10. Jan 10, 2015 #9

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  11. Jan 11, 2015 #10
    Thanks all its been rewarding to read the responses. I got what i was looking for. Heres a follow up but its ok if your busy not that keenly pursuing this. Thanks again.

    If its moving bcoz of inertia and if it falls distance x at terminal velocity then whats the work done ?
     
  12. Jan 11, 2015 #11

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    The work done is the force of gravity times the displacement. Since the object isn't accelerating, all of the work goes into moving the air in the path of the object.

    Just a reminder, PF rules prohibit "text speak" like "bcoz". Please use correct grammar to the best of your ability.
     
  13. Jan 11, 2015 #12
    Because equilibrium implies the acceleration is zero which must mean the velocity of the object experiencing zero net acceleration is either zero or some other constant unchanging number. However, zero is the state of rest, but that's not the only possibility. See? Ya know, if you were looking for a different answer and I don't exactly understand what you're asking, then I'm sorry about that. In that case, I'll be more careful next time.
     
  14. Jan 11, 2015 #13

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    The energy converted to heat / turbulence and, initially to KE will be mgh. Basic rules always apply in this sort of situation. You just have to go along with them and believe the result.
     
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