Parallel Lightbulbs- resistance total

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves eight lightbulbs connected in parallel to a 110-V source, with an additional resistance from the leads. Participants are tasked with determining the resistance of each bulb given the current flowing through them.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the total resistance of the circuit, questioning whether the given resistance includes only the leads or the bulbs as well. There is an exploration of using series and parallel resistance formulas, with attempts to calculate the total resistance based on current and voltage.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by considering the voltage drop across the leads and the implications for the bulbs. There is acknowledgment of confusion regarding the application of current in the circuit and the interpretation of the total resistance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity introduced by the resistance of the leads and the need to clarify how this affects the overall circuit analysis. There is a lack of consensus on the correct approach, with various interpretations being explored.

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Homework Statement


Eight lights are connected in parallel to a 110-V source by two long leads of total resistance 1.97 Ω.
a) If 405 mA flows through each bulb, what is the resistance of each?


Homework Equations


V=IR
P=IV=I2R=V2/R
Rtotal(for a series)= (R1-1+R2-1)-1
Rtotal(for parallel)= R1+R2


The Attempt at a Solution


So I tried just setting what I assumed was the total resistance (1.97) equal to my derived equation (Rtot=(8R-1)-1) and came up with 15.76 Ohms. This was wrong.
So then I tried using V=IR, and got 271.605. This was also wrong.
Upon re-looking at the problem, I see that (I think) it means the total resistance 1.97 Ohms is actually just of the two long leads, in which case I'm not sure how to work this into the problem... :/
 
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I'm not 100% sure about this, but i will work as such:

first, change the circuit into series.
so it consists of battery-wire-bulbs-wire

since the wire has a resistance, it must take up some voltage of the 110V.
V=IR. Current (I) will be 8*0.405.

The solve the total resistance of the each bulb
R=V/I. V is 110V minus whatever is got from the previous step. Current is 0.405

This is the almost the same as what you second trial is (when you got 271 ohms), the only difference is the voltage used.
 
v_bachtiar said:
I'm not 100% sure about this, but i will work as such:

first, change the circuit into series.
so it consists of battery-wire-bulbs-wire

since the wire has a resistance, it must take up some voltage of the 110V.
V=IR. Current (I) will be 8*0.405.

The solve the total resistance of the each bulb
R=V/I. V is 110V minus whatever is got from the previous step. Current is 0.405

This is the almost the same as what you second trial is (when you got 271 ohms), the only difference is the voltage used.
I just tried this, and it did not work.
However, I want to know why you made the current in the equation for the wire 8*.405. I understand that 8 probably came from the lightbulbs, but I don't know how that would apply to the wire. :/
 
Because the the each light bulb has 0.405A flowing through them,
so the current of the circuit in series will be 8*0.405

Itotal(in parallel) = I1+I2+I3...

because in series, the current throughout the circuit is the same, hence 8*0.405 would apply to the wires (and also to the 8 bulbs as a whole, with each bulb having 0.405A because the bulbs are identical in resistance).

But after all, the answer is wrong having it done this way. I'm stuck too then..
This is the only way i could think to solve the problem.
 
I figured it out! You were completely right with the multiplying .405 times 8. :) ThenI applied it to my equation for the total resistance (110/(8*.405)) and used that total for this:

33.951=R/8+1.97 (R/8 is my equivalent for what the total resistance of just the lightbulbs are) And I got it, so you did help, thanks! :)
 

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