Parameterizing surface in surface integral problem

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The problem involves finding the area of a surface cut from a paraboloid defined by the equation z=2x²+2y², constrained by the planes z=2 and z=8. Participants are exploring how to parameterize the surface and how the intersecting planes influence the integration region.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to parameterize the surface using (s,t,√(2s²+2t²)), but questions arise regarding the appropriateness of this parameterization. Some participants suggest reconsidering the parameterization and its relation to the planes cutting the paraboloid. There is discussion about the resulting curves in the (s,t) plane when evaluating the planes z=2 and z=8.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about parameterization and exploring the implications of the intersecting planes. Some guidance is offered regarding the use of polar coordinates for integration, and there is recognition of the need to determine what to integrate next.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion with parameterizations of different paraboloids, and participants are navigating the constraints imposed by the planes on the (s,t) integration region.

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Homework Statement


Find the area of the surface cut from the paraboloid z=2x2+2y2 by the planes z=2 and z=8.

Homework Equations


Surface area of S= ∫∫ ||Ts×Tt|| ds dt

The Attempt at a Solution


What I am really having trouble doing in this problem (and in general) is parameterizing the surface in terms of s and t. I think for this surface an accurate parameterization is (s,t,√(2s2+2t2)) but I am not sure. Also, I wouldn't know how the planes cutting the paraboloid would come into play.
 
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Why did you put the square root into (s,t,√(2s^2+2t^2)) for a starting point? The planes will define the (s,t) region you will integrate over.
 
Good question. I seem to have made an error. I was looking at the parameterization of a different paraboloid and must have gotten mixed up.
 
tasveerk said:
Good question. I seem to have made an error. I was looking at the parameterization of a different paraboloid and must have gotten mixed up.

Ok, so just use (s,t,2s^2+2t^2). Now if z=2, then that means 2s^2+2t^2=2. What kind of curve is that in the (s,t) plane?
 
A circle of radius 1. When z=8, the curve will be a circle of radius 2. Not sure where to go from here.
 
tasveerk said:
A circle of radius 1. When z=8, the curve will be a circle of radius 2. Not sure where to go from here.

Ok again. So you are going integrate between those two circles. Suggests you might think about polar coordinates. I'm not sure why you are not sure where to go. The next thing would be to work on what to integrate, right? Try working on the partial derivative vectors and finding the cross product.
 

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