Parametric Equation Trochoid Explanation

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The discussion revolves around deriving the parametric equations for a circle with a radius 'r' and a distance 'b' from a point on the circle. Participants are exploring the implications of this additional distance in the context of parametric equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to derive the parametric equations for the circle while questioning how the distance 'b' affects the standard equations. There are discussions about variations in the equations based on the angle and position of the radius.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations and attempting to clarify the relationships between the parameters involved. Some have offered alternative expressions for the coordinates based on different starting points and angles, but there is no clear consensus yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the problem, particularly in how the distance 'b' is integrated into the parametric equations. Participants are also considering different orientations of the radius and the implications for the coordinates.

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The third line is the type of problem I have:
Derive the parametric equation for a circle with a distance 'b' from the circle with a radius 'r'.

So from the edge of the circle to the red dot is a distance 'b' but from the center to the edge of the circle is 'r'



I know the parametric equation of a circle is x = rθ+rsinθ and y=r+cosθ when it is only dealing with a distance r. but what about when it is further from the circle than just a distance r?



I think the answer is
x=rθ-bsinθ
y=r=bcosθ
but I don't understand why it is.

Can someone please explain why?
 
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The circle has radius r and so every point on the circle can be written as variations on (cos(t), rsin(t)) with t depending on the angle at which you start. In particular, If we take t= 0 at the beginning with the radius pointing straight down, we have (p sin(t), -p cos(t)). If we want to take y= 0 at the straight line, x= 0 at the left end, we can write (p sin(t), -p cos(t)+ r).
 
HallsofIvy said:
The circle has radius r and so every point on the circle can be written as variations on (cos(t), rsin(t)) with t depending on the angle at which you start. In particular, If we take t= 0 at the beginning with the radius pointing straight down, we have (p sin(t), -p cos(t)). If we want to take y= 0 at the straight line, x= 0 at the left end, we can write (p sin(t), -p cos(t)+ r).

Im sorry, I understand some if this but basically if thr radius is point straight up it should be [rsin (t) , bcos (t) +r]?
 
Let the radius of the circle be r and the distance from centre to point be d. What are the coordinates of the circle's centre when it has turned through angle θ? What are the coordinates of the point relative to the centre of the circle?
 

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