Parametric representation of curves

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The discussion revolves around the parametric representation of curves, specifically focusing on modeling two quadratic surfaces in a three-dimensional context. Participants are exploring how to derive parametric equations from given equations related to these surfaces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss combining two quadratic equations into a single parametric form, questioning how to effectively model the intersection of the curves. There are attempts to rewrite equations and suggestions for using an independent variable for parameterization.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and suggestions for parameterization, while others express confusion about the process. There is an ongoing exploration of different variable choices for parameterization, with no clear consensus yet on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention their familiarity with parametric equations for lines but express uncertainty when transitioning to curves, indicating a potential gap in understanding the application of these concepts in three dimensions.

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I've dealt with parametric equations for lines before in my linear algebra class but I'm not sure how I'm suppose to model two curves with one.

Anyone have any suggestions?
 

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Those equations are two quadratic surfaces (I'm assuming we are in 3D).
you can try to combine them into one y=f(x) equation witch will give you a curve (assuming you want the curve of the intersection).
Moreover, if you need, you can model it with an independent variable (t) :)
 
I'm still pretty confused on how I'm suppose to get parametric equations from this. I could rewrite the two equations in one as,

[tex]1 = x^{2}-xy+y[/tex]

but I don't see how that helps me...:confused:
 
[tex]z = 1 - xy[/tex]

[tex]1 = x^2 - xy + y \ \Rightarrow \ y = \frac{1 - x^2}{1 - x} = 1 + x[/tex]

So we can rewrite z as

[tex]z = 1 - x(1 + x)[/tex].

Now can you think of a good variable to use for the parameterization from here?

Hint: it's extremely simple ^^
 
Now can you think of a good variable to use for the parameterization from here?

I'm not really sure... Maybe,

[tex]x=t[/tex]?

If so then,

[tex]x(t) = t[/tex]

[tex]y(t) = 1 + t[/tex]

[tex]z(t)=1 - t(1+t)[/tex]

I'm used to seeing parametric equations in the following form(straight lines),

[tex]z = A + Bt[/tex] where [tex]A&B\in Z[/tex]

So this is sort of new for me :blushing:
 
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jegues said:
I'm not really sure... Maybe,

[tex]x=t[/tex]?

I'm used to seeing parametric equations in the following form,

[tex]z = A + Bt[/tex] where [tex]A&B\in Z[/tex]

So this is sort of new for me :blushing:

yep, x=t works well! The way to write it is...

x(t) = ... \
y(t) = ... |- t [tex]\in \textbf{R}[/tex]
z(t) = ... /

...where that thing in the middle is supposed to be a curly bracket...I'm too lazy to make it work in LaTeX haha
 
...where that thing in the middle is supposed to be a curly bracket...I'm too lazy to make it work in LaTeX haha

It's all good! I edited my post above with the equations of x(t), y(t), and z(t).

Thanks again for your help!
 

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