Partial derivative chain rule for gradient

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around computing the gradient of the function ln(z / (sqrt(x^2 - y^2))). Participants are exploring the application of the chain rule and the properties of logarithmic functions in the context of partial derivatives.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to start computing the gradient with respect to x. Another participant suggests rewriting the function to simplify the differentiation process. There is also a discussion about the nature of the gradient as a vector and the components involved.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing hints and clarifications about the differentiation process. There is an acknowledgment of the need to treat certain variables as constants during differentiation, and some participants are questioning the approach taken in the initial attempts.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of not providing complete solutions while still aiming to guide understanding through hints and clarifications. There is a mention of homework forum etiquette regarding the provision of answers.

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Homework Statement



compute the gradient:

[tex]ln(z / (sqrt(x^2-y^2))[/tex]

Homework Equations



[tex]∇=(∂/(∂x)) + ... for y and z[/tex]

I just want to know how to do the first term with respect to x

The Attempt at a Solution



I am so rusty I don't know where to begin.
 
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[itex]ln(z) - \frac{1}{2}ln(x^2-y^2)[/itex]

That ought to make it easier. Now treat y and z as constants.
 
jfgobin said:
And you sum.

You don’t sum... Gradient is a vector and what you have found are the linearly independent components of it.
 
jfgobin, you shouldn't give away the final answer when you're answering posts in the homework forum. Just give a hint, like e^(i Pi)+1=0 did.
Mod note: I dealt with this.[/color]
physics2000, The hint given by e^(i Pi)+1=0 simplifies the problem significantly, but you don't have to use it. It's also possible to use these three rules directly:
\begin{align}
&\log'(x)=\frac 1 x\\
&(fg)'(x)=\frac{f'g-fg'}{g^2}\\
&\frac{d}{dx}x^a=ax^{a-1}
\end{align}
 
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cosmic dust said:
You don’t sum... Gradient is a vector and what you have found are the linearly independent components of it.

Yup, my bad!
 

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