Partial Derivative of Composite Functions

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The discussion revolves around the partial derivatives of composite functions, specifically examining the equation z = g(s+at) + f(s-at) with substitutions u = s+at and v = s-at. It is clarified that while partial derivatives like ∂u cannot exist independently, total differentials can be defined for functions of multiple variables. The participants analyze how to compute ∂z/∂s and ∂z/∂t, leading to expressions that incorporate the derivatives of g and f with respect to u and v. The question remains whether the second mixed partial derivative ∂²z/∂u∂v equals zero when u and v are dependent on the same variables. The conversation emphasizes the complexities of differentiating functions that rely on interdependent variables.
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Any help would be much appreciated - Is it possible to say the following?

If z = g(s+at) + f(s-at), let u = s+at and v=s-at, where a is a constant.

z = g(u) + f(v), \frac{∂z}{∂u} = g'(u), \frac{∂^{2}z}{∂v∂u} = 0?

or can ∂u and ∂v not even exist because it depends on two variables (a and t), which are the same ones as the ones v depends on.

Thanks!
 
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"\partial u" does not exist by itself. While we define "differentials", dx and dy, we do NOT define "partial differentials". Rather, if f(x, y) is a function of the two variables, x and y, we define its "total differential":
df= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}dx+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}

If If z = g(s+at) + f(s-at), let u = s+at and v=s-at, where a is a constant, and z = g(u) + f(v), then
\frac{\partial z}{\partial s}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial s}+ \frac{\partial g}{\partial s}
= \frac{df}{du}\frac{\partial u}{\partial s}+ \frac{dg}{dv}\frac{\partial v}{\partial s}= \frac{df}{du}(1)+ \frac{dg}{dv}(1)= \frac{df}{du}+ \frac{dg}{dv}

Similarly
\frac{\partial z}{\partial t}= a\frac{df}{du}- a\frac{dg}{dv}
 
Thanks for your quick reply! I think I get what you mean by ∂u can't exist by itself. Do you think you would be able to take a look at the original equation I posted:

z = g(u) + f(v), <br /> \frac{∂^{2}z}{∂u∂v} = 0

Does that still hold true even when you can't hold v or u constant while changing the other? (they depend on the same two vars)
 

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