Partial derivative of tan(x + y)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the partial derivative of the function f(x, y) = tan(x + y) with respect to x. Participants are exploring the implications of treating y as a constant in the differentiation process.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the chain rule and question why y is included in the derivative. There is an exploration of the derivative of tan(x + a) for a constant a, and how this relates to the original function.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the differentiation process and clarifying the role of constants in partial derivatives. There is a focus on understanding the correct application of differentiation rules without reaching a final consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of not assuming y is zero when differentiating, as this would misrepresent the function. The conversation reflects on the nuances of treating variables as constants in the context of partial derivatives.

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Homework Statement



[tex]f(x, y) = \tan(x + y) \\<br /> f_x = ?[/tex]



Homework Equations



[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}\tan(x)= \sec^2 x[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I set y as constant, so I said derivative of y = 0 then took derivative of tan as above. However the answer should be
[tex]f_x = \sec^2(x + y)[/tex]

Why is y included?
 
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Hi username12345! :smile:
username12345 said:
[tex]f(x, y) = \tan(x + y) \\<br /> f_x = ?[/tex]

However the answer should be
[tex]f_x = \sec^2(x + y)[/tex]

Why is y included?

Because it's in g(x,y) in the chain rule … ∂f(g(x,y))/∂x = ∂f(g(x,y))/∂g ∂g(x,y))/∂x
 
The fact that the derivative of y is 0 does not mean that y itself is 0 and replacing tan(x+y) with tan(x) is saying y= 0.

What is the derivative of tan(x+ a) for constant a?
 
HallsofIvy said:
What is the derivative of tan(x+ a) for constant a?

Well, what if you asked, what is derivative of [tex]tan(2x + a)[/tex]... I would say [tex]2 \sec^2(2x + a)[/tex]. So if that is correct then the derivative of [tex]\tan(x + a)[/tex] would be [tex]\sec^2(x + a)[/tex]. Is this correct?

Now considering the partial derivative with respect to x, we want y as a constant so replace a with y and we get [tex]f_x = \sec^2(x + y)[/tex]
 

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