Particular solution for dif eq

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The discussion revolves around finding a particular solution to a differential equation of the form -3y'' - 2y' + y = -t^2 + 2t + 2e^{-4t}. Participants are exploring the methods for determining the coefficients in a proposed solution.

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  • The original poster attempts to find a particular solution by separating the non-exponential and exponential parts of the equation. They propose a solution of the form y = At^2 + Bt and y = Ce^{-4t} but encounter inconsistencies in their coefficients.
  • Participants question the consistency of the values for A and B derived from the equations, noting a potential omission of a constant term C in the calculations.
  • Some suggest that solving for A, B, and C separately might clarify the inconsistencies observed.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning the assumptions made in the calculations and exploring alternative approaches to clarify the relationships between the coefficients. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several participants are providing guidance on how to address the inconsistencies.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the methods they can use or the information they can assume. The presence of conflicting values for B indicates a potential misunderstanding or oversight in the setup of the equations.

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[tex]-3y''-2y'+y=-t^2+2t+2e^{-4t}[/tex]

i am to find the particular solution to this.

i started with the non-exponential:
[tex]y=At^2+Bt[/tex]
[tex]y'=2At+B[/tex]
[tex]y''=2A[/tex]

[tex](-6A-2B)+(-4A+B)t+A(t^2)[/tex]
[tex]-6A-2B=0,-4A+B=2,A(t^2)=-1[/tex]
[tex]A=-1, B=3[/tex]

i started with the exponential:
[tex]y=Ce^{-4y}[/tex]
[tex]y'=-4Ce^{-4t}[/tex]
[tex]y''=16Ce^{-4t}[/tex]

[tex]-48Ce^{-4t}+8Ce^{-4t}+Ce^{-4t}=2Ce^{-4t}[/tex]
[tex]C=-\frac{2}{39}[/tex]

so I think the particular solution is:
[tex]y_p=-t^2+3t- \frac{2}{39}e^{-4t}[/tex]

but this is wrong, not sure why, any ideas?
 
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you have -4A + B = 2, but that is inconsistent with A = -1 and B = 3.

What have you missed?

(Check a few lines before)
 
if A=-1, then b=-2? but for the other equation it is 3? i don't understand this
 
You forgot the C!
 
couldnt I do it separated? solve for A and B, and then solve for C would be the same as solving for A B and C at the same time right?
 
y=At² + Bt + C
 
My apologies Urban...
I only read your post as far as the ommission of C from the 1st eqn.
I just now saw the C from the 2nd part you did.
I must have been confusing you.
Sorry about that.
 
it's no problem Fermat, any ideas is to what I have done wrong? since B can be both equal to -2 and 3, i am not sure what to do.
 
do what you did before , but with y=At² + Bt + C.

y=At² + Bt + C
y' = 2At + B
y'' = 2A

-3y'' - 2y + y = -t² + t
-6A -4At - 2B + At² + Bt + C = -t² +t

etc.
 

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