Pascal's Principle Homework: Pressure Variation w/ Height & Diameter

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This discussion focuses on the application of Pascal's Principle in understanding pressure variation in a system of interconnected tubes filled with water. It establishes that the pressure at the bottom of the larger tube increases by an amount equal to ρg(a), where ρ is the density of the fluid, g is the acceleration due to gravity, and a is the height of the smaller tube. The diameter of the upper tube does not affect the pressure at the bottom, as pressure is solely dependent on the height of the liquid column above it. The confusion arises from the intuitive belief that diameter might influence pressure, but the discussion clarifies that only height is relevant in this context.

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Homework Statement


A small tube is connected to the top of a larger one and the whole thing is filled with water. The small tube has height a and the larger tube has height b.

What happens to the pressure at the bottom of the larger tube as (1) a is varied, and (2) a is held constant but the diameter of the upper tube is increased?

Homework Equations


<br /> p_\text{gauge} = \rho g h<br />
Pascal's principle.

The Attempt at a Solution



(1) According to Pascal's principle, the larger tube will see a pressure increase of rho g a. This will increase the downward force at the bottom of the larger barrel, and that will be rho g a.

(2) I don't think the diameter matters, but intuitively I can't see why! If b is the diameter of a straw (a few millimeters), the smaller tube will increase the pressure on the larger one just as much as a big tube on top. It is only height that seems to matter, then, and if I took a really tall straw and put it over a large vat of water, I would see a huge increase in force at the bottom of the vat. Confused...

 
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bigplanet401 said:
and that will be rho g a.

bigplanet401 said:
only height that seems to matter

bigplanet401 said:
really tall straw and put it over a large vat of water, I would see a huge increase in force at the bottom of the vat. Confused...
... and, your question is --- what?
 
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Is height really the only thing that matters here? Intuitively, this just doesn't make sense to me. How can a small straw of liquid (say 10 cm high) exert the same pressure at the surface of the barrel as, say, a huge vat that is just as high?
 
Dive 2 m down to the bottom of a swimming pool. Dive the same distance below the surface of the ocean: do you feel more pressure?
 
MrAnchovy said:
Dive 2 m down to the bottom of a swimming pool. Dive the same distance below the surface of the ocean: do you feel more pressure?
Well you do of course because ocean water is denser due to dissolved salts, but do you feel thousands of times more pressure?
 

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