Passing a current from a metal wire through an electrolyte solution

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of current flow from a metal wire into an electrolyte solution, specifically focusing on scenarios where the solution does not contain ions of the metal used for the electrode. Participants explore the underlying principles of charge movement in both metal and ionic solutions, with a particular emphasis on applications in neurobiology labs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how current can flow from a silver wire into a potassium chloride solution that lacks silver ions.
  • Another participant asserts that electrons will move as long as there is sufficient voltage or low resistance, prompting a request for the original poster's understanding of electricity.
  • A different participant explains that current in an electrolyte solution is carried by ions, which migrate in response to an electric field, although they express uncertainty about the specific reactions occurring at the electrodes.
  • One participant clarifies that while electrons are the charge carriers in metal wires, ions are responsible for current in electrolyte solutions, noting that an external voltage causes reduction of chemical species in the solution.
  • A later reply acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the electrolyte aspect of the original question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of current flow in electrolyte solutions, particularly regarding the role of ions versus electrons. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight limitations in their knowledge of chemistry and the specific reactions occurring in the electrolyte solution, indicating potential gaps in understanding the complete process.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electrochemistry, neurobiology applications involving electrodes, or those seeking clarification on the principles of current flow in different media.

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I am having trouble understanding how current can move through an electrolyte solution that does not contain ions of the metal of which the electrode supplying the current is made. For instance, if a silver wire were submerged in a solution of potassium chloride and, how would current pass into the solution?

I am in a neurobiology lab and we use glass electrodes containing a silver wire in a potassium chloride solution to inject current into living cells. I have been struggling to understand how it is we are doing so. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Electrons don't care what material they are in. As long as there is a low enough resistance or high enough voltage, they will move. Can you tell us what you do know about electricity? That way we can respond appropriately.
 
There is little or no electron flow in such solutions. What you have is a ionic solution, the Cl and K ions exist separately in solution. The positive ions will migrate to the negative terminal and the negatives will go to the other. This is due to the electric field in the solution. Seems to me you could be evolving Cl gas a one terminal. Note that my chemistry is ancient so I cannot tell you which, Cl or K, is positive or negative, I cannot tell you exactly what is going to happen. If Borek comes in he will be able to fill in the details.
 
I know that the carriers of charge that move through a metal wire are electrons. I know that the magnitude of current is directly proportional to the magnitude of electric potential difference between the two points it is moving and inversely proportional to the resistance of the material through which it is moving. Also, the carriers of charge responsible for current moving through an electrolyte solution are not lone electrons, but rather atoms with charge imbalances (ions). When an electrode is submerged in a solution and an external voltage drives a current into the electrode, one of the chemical species in the solution is reduced. Often, I have encountered examples of electrodes in solutions containing ions of the electrode, i.e. a copper electrode in a solution of copper II sulfate. What I don't know is, in my example in my original post, what is reduced, and how are we injecting current into the cells?
 
Ah ok, my mistake. I neglected to pay attention to the electrolyte part.
 

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