PDE's - Finding a certain solution to Laplace's equation on a circle

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The discussion revolves around finding a specific solution to Laplace's equation, \( u_{xx} + u_{yy} = 0 \), with a proposed solution form involving quadratic terms in \( x \) and \( y \). The boundary condition requires the solution to match a trigonometric expression on the unit circle defined by \( x^2 + y^2 = 1 \).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive relationships between coefficients \( A \), \( B \), and \( C \) using the boundary condition and the Laplace equation. They express uncertainty about how to incorporate the unit circle condition into their equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest using double angle formulas to simplify the boundary condition, while others confirm that the unit circle condition is not necessary for finding the solution. There is a recognition of the original poster's progress in identifying coefficients, but no consensus on the necessity of the circle condition.

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The problem involves constraints related to the form of the solution and the boundary conditions, with specific attention to the implications of the unit circle equation.

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Homework Statement


Find a solution of Laplace's equation [tex]u_{xx} + u_{yy} = 0[/tex] of the form [tex]u(x,y) = Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 \ (A^2 + B^2 + C^2 \not= 0 )[/tex] which satisfies the boundary condition [tex]u(cos(\theta),sin(\theta)) = cos(2\theta) + sin(2\theta)[/tex] for all points [tex](cos(\theta),sin(\theta))[/tex] on the circle, [tex]x^2 + y^2 = 1[/tex].


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The Attempt at a Solution


first, I found [tex]u_{xx}[/tex] and [tex]u_{yy}[/tex]

[tex]u_{xx} = 2A[/tex]
[tex]u_{yy} = 2C[/tex]

From [tex]u_{xx} + u_{yy} = 0[/tex] and the above results, I can get [tex]2A + 2C = 0[/tex].

Now, I plugged in the boundary condition:
[tex]cos(2\theta) + sin(2\theta) = Acos^2(\theta) + Bcos(\theta) sin(\theta) + Csin^2(\theta).[/tex]

I tried various trig substitutions here and couldn't seem to get anywhere. However, with this equation and the one above, I have two equations (but there are three unknowns). I am pretty sure I have to use the [tex]x^2 + y^2 = 1[/tex] to write another equation so that I can solve for A, B, and C, but I do not know how to use the circle information.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Just use the double angle formulas for cos(2*theta) and sin(2*theta). I don't really see what the problem is.
 
All right, let me see what I can do. I had tried this, but it wasn't simplifying, maybe there's something I'm not seeing.

okay, so using those double angle identities:

[tex]cos^2(\theta) - sin^2(\theta) + 2sin(\theta)cos(\theta) = Acos^2(\theta) + Bcos(\theta)sin(\theta) + Csin^2(\theta)[/tex]

Oh, and I can solve that for
[tex]A = 1,B = 2,C = -1[/tex]

So my solution is :

[tex]u(x,y) = x^2 + 2xy - y^2[/tex]

This is the answer in the back of the book.

I was just wondering why they put the [tex]x^2 + y^2 = 1[/tex] in there? Is that something I didn't need to figure out the answer?

Thanks so much for that little nudge too. I really appreciate that.
 
No, you don't need it. If (x,y)=(cos(theta),sin(theta)) on the boundary, then of course x^2+y^2=1.
 
Thanks so much!
 

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