Pendulum in a Car: Solving Homework Statement

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The problem involves a pendulum suspended in a car that is moving on a level road. The pendulum makes an angle with the vertical, and the goal is to determine the acceleration of the car based on this setup.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of centripetal force in the context of the pendulum's motion and question whether the pendulum is indeed moving in a circular path. The original poster attempts to derive equations based on force components and expresses uncertainty about the relevance of mass in their calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to set up the equations relating tension, gravitational force, and the car's acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of mass in the equations, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered.

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There is a noted uncertainty regarding the radius of the pendulum and how it affects the calculations. The original poster also expresses confusion about whether to include mass in their final equations.

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Homework Statement


A pendulum of mass 1.0 kg is suspended from the roof of a car traveling on a level road. An observer in the car notices that the pendulum string makes an angle of 10 deg with the vertical. What is the acceleration of the car?


Homework Equations



Fc=mv^2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew the FBD diagram (attached) and I wrote the vertical and horizontal force equations:
Vertically: Tcos 10 deg=mg
Horizontally: Fc=mv^2/r=Tsin10deg.
So I got he equation mgtan10deg=mv^2/r after putting the equations together. But I don't know the radius of the pendulum, so I don't know how to solve the problem.

Thanks!

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Why do you use the centripetal force? Does anything move along a circle? ehild
 
The suspended mass accelerates together with the car. Some force has to exert the force needed. It can be only the tension in the string, if it makes an angle with the vertical. The horizontal component of the tension is equal to ma (a is the common acceleration of the car and the pendulum) and the vertical component is equal and opposite to gravity, mg.
 
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Oh i got it! Are the equations:
Tcos10=mg
Tsin10=ma

Sub T=mg/cos10 into Tsin10=ma, cancel out the m's and solve for a?

Actually,it gives you mass in the problem, so I don't know if I should cancel it out or not :S
 
As you get the a single equation for a from those two, the mass cancels by itself, but if you like to multiply and divide by m and making rounding errors, just do it:-p

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I see, thanks :D
 
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