Pendulum Problem: Solving for Angular Velocity (ω)

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The problem involves a pendulum where a mass is released from a horizontal position, and the goal is to determine its angular velocity at the lowest point of its swing. The context is rooted in the principles of conservation of energy and the relationship between potential and kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of energy principles but questions the angular equivalent of gravitational potential energy. Some participants suggest using trigonometry to determine the change in height of the pendulum, noting that it simplifies the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between height and angular velocity, with some confirming the original poster's approach and assumptions. There is a general agreement on the method used, but the original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations.

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There is a discussion about the assumptions made regarding the height change being equal to the length of the pendulum, as well as the potential confusion surrounding the application of energy conservation in an angular context.

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Homework Statement


A small object of mass m, on the end of a light rod, is held horizontally at a distance r from a fixed support. The object is then released. What is the angular velocity, ω, of the mass when the object is at the lowest point of its swing?

Homework Equations


This is my problem. I believe it is a conservation of energy problem so:
PEi + KEi = PEf + KEf however I am not sure what the angular equivalent to mgh is.

The Attempt at a Solution


mgr = (1/2)(mr)^2(w)^2
2g = r(w)^2
(2g/r)^1/2=w

Which is the correct answer but I am not sure about my math or my formula, did I do this problem the right way or did I just get lucky?
 
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Well, there isn't really an angular equivalent to mgh, you just need to use some trigonometry to find the change in height of the pendulum.

In this case it's really easy since the pendulum mass starts horizontal and they want to know its angular velocity at the bottom of its swing. Therefore it's trivial to say that the change in height is equal to the length of the pendulum.
 
SHISHKABOB said:
Well, there isn't really an angular equivalent to mgh, you just need to use some trigonometry to find the change in height of the pendulum.

In this case it's really easy since the pendulum mass starts horizontal and they want to know its angular velocity at the bottom of its swing. Therefore it's trivial to say that the change in height is equal to the length of the pendulum.

So I did do this problem right? I assumed that r or the length of the pendulum was h.
 
yeah that's a reasonable assumption to make, and if your answer agrees with the one in the book (I think that's what you said) then yes you did the problem right
 

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