Permanent Magnets: Questions Answered

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties and enhancement of permanent magnets, including their composition, strength, and factors influencing their effectiveness. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of magnetism, including material science and applications in technology.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the materials used in the most powerful permanent magnets and their maximum strength, suggesting that ferromagnetism is a key factor.
  • Another participant mentions that superconducting solenoids can generate strong magnetic fields, potentially around 10 Tesla, but does not specify the strongest permanent magnet.
  • There is a discussion about enhancing the strength of magnets by placing iron behind them, with one participant suggesting that this confines magnetic flux and increases magnetic flux density.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the best shapes for magnets and how shape influences strength, with one asking for sources on this topic.
  • Rare Earth magnets, particularly neodymium, are noted as some of the strongest available, with a participant speculating that there may be stronger rare-earth options that could be developed.
  • One participant references a source that discusses how the shape and material behind a magnet can affect the measured flux density, specifically mentioning the use of steel in applications like speakers.
  • There is a question regarding the validity of claims that NdFeB magnets are the strongest available, with a specific reference to their strength being around 1 Tesla.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the materials and methods for enhancing magnet strength, with no clear consensus on the strongest permanent magnet or the best shapes for maximizing strength. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of these claims.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on definitions of strength and measurement techniques, and there are unresolved questions about the influence of shape and material on magnetic properties.

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I have a few questions about permanent magnets:

What are the most powerful permanent magnets made of? How strong do they get?

What are the ways to make an already powerful magnet even stronger?

I understand that placing iron behind it will amplify it. Why?

I also read somewhere that shape is really important as well. What are the best shapes to make a magnet stronger? How does that work?


Thank you.
 
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1. What are the most powerful permanent magnets made of? How strong do they get?
Ans: permanent magnet in fact is base on ferromagnetism. i think u can look it up here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_magnet#Permanent_magnets
i dun know what is the strongest magnet in the world. but if u want to generate a very strong magnetic field, u can use a superconducting solenoid. Typically i can generate a B-field around 10Tesla.

2. What are the ways to make an already powerful magnet even stronger?
Ans: i think what u are talking about is to put a iron coil inside a solenoid to make a stronger B-field, rite? this is because the iron would confines the magnetic flux so the the magnetic flux density(B-field) increases.

3. What are the best shapes to make a magnet stronger? How does that work?
Ans: i dun know, where did u read about this?

hope it helps^^

kit
 
The strongest I know of that are available are rare Earth magnets such as neodymium. I'm sure there are stronger ones (probably rare-earth) that could be made.

Oh, and the strongest magnetic fields ever discovered are in magnetars.
 
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Thnks for your replies!

Kit:

This is the page where I read about steel increasing flux density and the shape being important: http://www.wondermagnet.com/magfaq.html#q71

Here is the quote:

"B (flux density): This is the measurement (in Gauss or Tesla) you get when you use a gaussmeter at the surface of a magnet. The reading is completely dependent on the distance from the surface, the shape of the magnet, the exact location measured, the thickness of the probe and of the magnet's plating. Steel behind a magnet will increase the measured 'B' significantly. "

It is also common for a magnet to be encased in steel when used in speakers, isn't it?

Also all solutions would have to be at room temperatures (and here on Earth :smile: )

The website referenced above also says that NdFeB (Neodymium-Iron-Boron) magnets are the strongest ones available today (a/ 1T). I was wondering if that was true.
 

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