Phase Angle for Simple Harmonic Motion

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The discussion revolves around the concept of phase angle in simple harmonic motion (SHM), specifically regarding the function of displacement expressed as x = Acos(ωt + φ). Participants are exploring whether the phase angle φ remains constant across different derivatives of the displacement function and clarifying the distinction between "phase" and "phase angle."

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions whether the phase angle φ remains unchanged when deriving equations for velocity and acceleration. They also seek clarification on the difference between "phase" and "phase angle." Other participants provide insights on the nature of phase and its dependence on time.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants offering clarifications regarding the terminology and the relationship between phase and phase angle. There is an acknowledgment that the phase does not change with differentiation, but the distinction between phase and phase angle is still being explored.

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Participants are navigating the definitions and implications of phase and phase angle as presented in different sources, indicating potential confusion stemming from varying terminologies in textbooks and literature.

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Phase Angle / Phase Question - Simple Harmonic Motion

Homework Statement



If I were given a function of displacement for simple harmonic motion in the form of:

x = Acos([tex]\omega[/tex]t + [tex]\phi[/tex])

Would the phase angle, [tex]\phi[/tex], always be the same? Say if I derived the equations into forms for velocity and acceleration as well. The phase angle would not change.. is that correct?

Also, I am confused about what is the phase and what is the phase angle? My textbook lists the "phase angle" as [tex]\phi[/tex] and some other sources list "phase" as ([tex]\omega[/tex]t + [tex]\phi[/tex]). What's the difference between these??

Homework Equations



x = Acos([tex]\omega[/tex]t + [tex]\phi[/tex])
v = -[tex]\omega[/tex]Acos([tex]\omega[/tex]t + [tex]\phi[/tex])
a = -[tex]\omega[/tex]2Acos([tex]\omega[/tex]t + [tex]\phi[/tex])

The Attempt at a Solution



My belief is that it wouldn't change, but I want to be 100% sure.

Thanks for your clarification!
 
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Hi, sorry to "bump" a thread but it's been a while now and I still want some clarity on this. Can anyone offer help?
 
As far as your first question is concerned, phase does not change if you take derivative of 'x' as long as the phase is independent of time.
 
It is better to call Φ "the phase constant" It is not really angle, as no angle is involved in the SHM. Φ does not change if you calculate the time derivatives of the displacement. The phase is ωt+Φ. It depends on time. When x=Acos(ωt+Φ) has its maximum value the phase is 2kΠ (k is integer). And x=0 if ωt+Φ=(k+1/2)Π . ehild
 

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