Abhishek kumar
Read standing wave form by super position of reflected and incident waveJahnavi said:Isn't "t" same in the two wave expressions ?
Aren't we considering the same instant ?
The discussion centers on the phase change and reflection of electromagnetic waves, specifically addressing the reflected wave's equation. The correct reflected wave is given as E = E0i cos(kz + ωt), indicating no minus sign is present. Participants debated the implications of a phase change of π upon reflection, particularly when reflecting off an optically inactive surface. The consensus is that the minus sign in the reflected wave indicates a phase change, which is essential for understanding wave behavior in optics.
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Read standing wave form by super position of reflected and incident waveJahnavi said:Isn't "t" same in the two wave expressions ?
Aren't we considering the same instant ?
Jahnavi said:But presence of minus sign in reflected wave doesn't mean complete cancellation.
E0cos (kz - ωt) - E0cos (kz + ωt) ≠ 0
That's what i want to sayDelta² said:They completely cancel at z=0, if reflection happens at z=0. If it happens at z=a you need the phase term ##2ka## as Charles says at post #2.
Abhishek kumar said:You are only considering position not time.when incident wave traveled a unit reflected wave just started
Abhishek kumar said:That's what i want to say
You have taken same distance traveled by both the wave at any instant of time is it possible?that's why i said you r considering only same position.For same time position will be differentJahnavi said:This is not what you said in post 27![]()
@Jahnavi I think you have this part figured out already, but to show it in detail: ## \\ ## ## E_{incident}(z,t)=E_o \hat{i} \cos(kz-\omega t) ##, and ## \\ ## ## E_{reflected}(z,t)=-E_o \hat{i} \cos(2ka-kz-\omega t) ##. ## \\ ## Evaluating at ## z=a ##: ## \\ ## ## E_{incident}(a,t)=E_o \hat{i} \cos(ka-\omega t) ##, and ## \\ ## ## E_{reflected}(a,t)=-E_o \hat{i} \cos(2ka-\omega t-ka)=-E_o \hat{i} \cos(ka-\omega t) ##. ## \\ ## Thereby, they cancel at ## z=a ##. ## \\ ## Also, in post 21, you asked about the vector ## \hat{i} ##. Yes, that means the electric field for this electromagnetic wave is transverse and points in the x-direction.Jahnavi said:At z = a , E0cos (ka- ωt) - E0cos (ka + ωt) = 2E0sin(ka)sin(ωt) ≠ 0
Can you show how they cancel ?