Abhishek kumar
Read standing wave form by super position of reflected and incident waveJahnavi said:Isn't "t" same in the two wave expressions ?
Aren't we considering the same instant ?
The discussion revolves around the reflection of electromagnetic waves and the associated phase changes. Participants are examining the behavior of waves as they reflect off surfaces, particularly focusing on the implications of phase shifts and the mathematical representation of the reflected wave.
There is an ongoing debate regarding the correctness of the original poster's solution and the presence of a phase change of π. Some participants suggest that the problem may involve simplified assumptions, while others emphasize the importance of including specific phase terms in the calculations. Multiple interpretations of the reflection process are being explored.
Participants note that the problem is derived from a high school physics context, which may influence the assumptions made about wave behavior and phase changes. There is also mention of differing perspectives based on expertise in optics and electromagnetic theory.
Read standing wave form by super position of reflected and incident waveJahnavi said:Isn't "t" same in the two wave expressions ?
Aren't we considering the same instant ?
Jahnavi said:But presence of minus sign in reflected wave doesn't mean complete cancellation.
E0cos (kz - ωt) - E0cos (kz + ωt) ≠ 0
That's what i want to sayDelta² said:They completely cancel at z=0, if reflection happens at z=0. If it happens at z=a you need the phase term ##2ka## as Charles says at post #2.
Abhishek kumar said:You are only considering position not time.when incident wave traveled a unit reflected wave just started
Abhishek kumar said:That's what i want to say
You have taken same distance traveled by both the wave at any instant of time is it possible?that's why i said you r considering only same position.For same time position will be differentJahnavi said:This is not what you said in post 27![]()
@Jahnavi I think you have this part figured out already, but to show it in detail: ## \\ ## ## E_{incident}(z,t)=E_o \hat{i} \cos(kz-\omega t) ##, and ## \\ ## ## E_{reflected}(z,t)=-E_o \hat{i} \cos(2ka-kz-\omega t) ##. ## \\ ## Evaluating at ## z=a ##: ## \\ ## ## E_{incident}(a,t)=E_o \hat{i} \cos(ka-\omega t) ##, and ## \\ ## ## E_{reflected}(a,t)=-E_o \hat{i} \cos(2ka-\omega t-ka)=-E_o \hat{i} \cos(ka-\omega t) ##. ## \\ ## Thereby, they cancel at ## z=a ##. ## \\ ## Also, in post 21, you asked about the vector ## \hat{i} ##. Yes, that means the electric field for this electromagnetic wave is transverse and points in the x-direction.Jahnavi said:At z = a , E0cos (ka- ωt) - E0cos (ka + ωt) = 2E0sin(ka)sin(ωt) ≠ 0
Can you show how they cancel ?