Phase Change and Reflection of Electromagnetic Waves

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The discussion revolves around the phase change and reflection of electromagnetic waves, particularly focusing on the mathematical representation of the reflected wave. It highlights that when an electromagnetic wave reflects off a surface, it experiences a phase change of π, resulting in a negative sign in the reflected wave equation. Participants debate the correctness of the provided answer from a textbook, which lacks this minus sign, suggesting it may stem from simplified assumptions by the author. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding boundary conditions and the implications of phase changes in wave behavior. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards the necessity of including the phase change in the reflection equation for accurate representation.
  • #31
Jahnavi said:
Isn't "t" same in the two wave expressions ?

Aren't we considering the same instant ?
Read standing wave form by super position of reflected and incident wave
 
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  • #32
Jahnavi said:
But presence of minus sign in reflected wave doesn't mean complete cancellation.

E0cos (kz - ωt) - E0cos (kz + ωt) ≠ 0

They completely cancel at z=0, if reflection happens at z=0. If it happens at z=a you need the phase term ##2ka## as Charles says at post #2.
 
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  • #33
Delta² said:
They completely cancel at z=0, if reflection happens at z=0. If it happens at z=a you need the phase term ##2ka## as Charles says at post #2.
That's what i want to say
 
  • #34
Abhishek kumar said:
You are only considering position not time.when incident wave traveled a unit reflected wave just started
Abhishek kumar said:
That's what i want to say

This is not what you said in post 27 :smile:
 
  • #35
Jahnavi said:
This is not what you said in post 27 :smile:
You have taken same distance traveled by both the wave at any instant of time is it possible?that's why i said you r considering only same position.For same time position will be different
 
  • #36
Jahnavi said:
At z = a , E0cos (ka- ωt) - E0cos (ka + ωt) = 2E0sin(ka)sin(ωt) ≠ 0

Can you show how they cancel ?
@Jahnavi I think you have this part figured out already, but to show it in detail: ## \\ ## ## E_{incident}(z,t)=E_o \hat{i} \cos(kz-\omega t) ##, and ## \\ ## ## E_{reflected}(z,t)=-E_o \hat{i} \cos(2ka-kz-\omega t) ##. ## \\ ## Evaluating at ## z=a ##: ## \\ ## ## E_{incident}(a,t)=E_o \hat{i} \cos(ka-\omega t) ##, and ## \\ ## ## E_{reflected}(a,t)=-E_o \hat{i} \cos(2ka-\omega t-ka)=-E_o \hat{i} \cos(ka-\omega t) ##. ## \\ ## Thereby, they cancel at ## z=a ##. ## \\ ## Also, in post 21, you asked about the vector ## \hat{i} ##. Yes, that means the electric field for this electromagnetic wave is transverse and points in the x-direction.
 
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