Phase Plane Diagram w/ Complex eigenvalues

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of a phase plane diagram involving complex eigenvalues, specifically focusing on the direction of spirals (clockwise or counterclockwise) and the behavior of solutions in relation to the center of the phase plane.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks whether the spiral they drew is clockwise or counterclockwise and seeks a method to determine the direction.
  • Another participant describes the ODE system and provides a specific example of a vector in the phase plane, suggesting that it indicates movement away from the center.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about whether all solutions approach the center and questions the direction of the spiral.
  • Another reply suggests plotting several points to observe behavior and mentions using the sign of the real component of the eigenvalue to assess convergence to the origin.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the direction of the spiral and the behavior of solutions, indicating that multiple views and interpretations remain unresolved.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about the eigenvalues and the specific conditions under which the solutions behave as described.

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Is the spiral I drew here clockwise or counterclockwise ? What’s a trick to know whether it’s going CCW or CW. Thanks!
 

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The ODE system looks something like this ##y' = A y##. Let's pick ##y_2 = 0, y_1 = 1##, which implies ##y' = \langle-3,2\rangle##. This implies at the point ##(1,0)## in the phase plane there will be a vector pointing in the direction ##\langle -3,2\rangle##, and hence moving in the direction along the spiral away from the center.
 
joshmccraney said:
The ODE system looks something like this ##y' = A y##. Let's pick ##y_2 = 0, y_1 = 1##, which implies ##y' = \langle-3,2\rangle##. This implies at the point ##(1,0)## in the phase plane there will be a vector pointing in the direction ##\langle -3,2\rangle##, and hence moving in the direction along the spiral away from the center.

Im not quite sure if that means all solns would be approaching the center? Clockwise or Counterclockwise
 
e101101 said:
Im not quite sure if that means all solns would be approaching the center? Clockwise or Counterclockwise
Plot several points and you'll see the behavior, such as the point ##(y_1 = a > 0, y_2 = 0)##. Alternatively, look at the sign of the real component of the eigenvalue to determine whether or not solutions converge to the origin or not.
 

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