PhD in Physics at UCI vs Materials Science and Engineering UCR

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the decision between pursuing a PhD in Physics at UC Irvine (UCI) versus a PhD in Materials Science and Engineering (MSE) at UC Riverside (UCR). Participants explore various factors including funding, program structure, faculty interactions, and future career prospects.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a TA offer at UCI for $18k focusing on Condensed Matter experiment, with a degree time of 6-7 years, while UCR offers a $15k fellowship for the first year with a total degree time of 5 years.
  • Another participant highlights that MSE is a highly sought-after major in industry, suggesting potential career advantages over a Physics PhD.
  • A participant expresses a desire to pursue postdoctoral positions before deciding between academia and industry, referencing statistics that indicate a high percentage of physical science PhDs work in non-academic sectors.
  • One comment suggests that while UCR may not be as prestigious as UCI, both schools can lead to successful career paths.
  • A participant raises concerns about a specific faculty member at UCI, implying that interactions with faculty could influence the decision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the merits of each program, with some favoring UCI for its reputation and environment, while others advocate for UCR due to its applied focus and faculty interactions. No consensus is reached regarding which program is superior.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors such as funding structures, program lengths, and personal experiences with faculty, which may influence their decisions but are not universally applicable. The discussion reflects individual priorities and uncertainties regarding future career paths.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective graduate students considering a PhD in Physics or Materials Science and Engineering, particularly those weighing program reputation, funding, and career outcomes.

UCI Physics VS UCR Materials Science & Engineering

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I have a 2 year TA offer at UC Irvine for physics (~$18k) where I would focus on Condensed Matter experiment or the chemicals and materials physics program(this program is easier and offers a 10 week summer research program before grad school begins). Degree time is usually 6-7 years.

The MSE offer at UC Riverside is a fellowship for $15k for the first year, no working. One year TA is required for the degree and after the first year funding is provided by TA/RA. The classes at UCR are more applied and sound more useful for a career in research or industry. Degree time 5 years.

Irvine was originally my top choice school, but after meeting a few profs, and not finding a great fit/project I was concerned. Though I admit I liked the Irvine campus a bit more than UCR, the profs at UCR seemed nicer and more interested in my research experience (nanoparticle synthesis and characterization).

I have always been an experimentalist at heart and love both physics and engineering. The classes at riverside seem more interesting to me than the standard physics curriculum, and the fellowship is a nice bonus...but Irvine was my dream school...the only reasons I hesitate going to UCI are a few bad meetings with profs, and the extremely competitive classmates (I was originally waitlisted).

what should i do?
UCI Physics CM/ChamP? (TA 18k)
UCR MSE (fellowship 15k)
 
Physics news on Phys.org
What are your plans after graduation? MSE is a highly sought after major in industry, but it is tough to make a living with a Physics PhD (many people do it of course, it's just harder).
 
I think after graduation I would like to do a few post docs before deciding between research in academia and work in industry. I would love to be a professor with my own lab, but these positions are extremely competitive so most likely I will end up in industry.

from the Irvine ChaMP website
"Although there is essentially zero unemployment among physical science graduates, only a small fraction of PhDs become academic investigators. A full 95 percent of PhDs take positions in non- academic sectors, primarily in industry."
 
Well, UCR isn't as famous as UCI but they're both good schools and both seem to be able to get you where you want to go. If it were me, I would lean towards UCI. Irvine is a nicer place to live for the next 5 or 6 years as well.
 
If you go to IRVINE you have to deal with Shawn Strausser... enough said.
 
*get to deal with
 

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