Photon & Magnetism: Force Carrier?

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The discussion centers on whether photons act as force carriers in magnetism by spinning around particles to create magnetic force. It clarifies that photons do not function in this manner; instead, forces are mediated by specific force carrier particles that interact with matter particles. The analogy of basketballs being tossed between players illustrates how these interactions occur, though it oversimplifies the complexities of attractive forces. The conversation emphasizes that only certain matter particles can absorb or produce specific force carriers, like photons for charged particles. Overall, the exchange of force carrier particles is essential for understanding how particles influence each other without direct contact.
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In magnetism does a photon (or stream of) spin around a particle to create magnetic force? Or to ask this another way, are photons force carriers in such a way that since they spin around a particle so fast, their paths have become effectively a barrier, hence the force.
 
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richerrich said:
In magnetism does a photon (or stream of) spin around a particle to create magnetic force? Or to ask this another way, are photons force carriers in such a way that since they spin around a particle so fast, their paths have become effectively a barrier, hence the force.

This could be an interesting explanation to my question (from particleadventure.org):
"It turns out that all interactions which affect matter particles are due to an exchange of force carrier particles, a different type of particle altogether. These particles are like basketballs tossed between matter particles (which are like the basketball players). What we normally think of as "forces" are actually the effects of force carrier particles on matter particles.

The basketball animation is, of course, a very crude analogy since it can only explain repulsive forces and gives no hint of how exchanging particles can result in attractive forces.

We see examples of attractive forces in everyday life (such as magnets and gravity), and so we generally take it for granted that an object's presence can just affect another object. It is when we approach the deeper question, "How can two objects affect one another without touching?" that we propose that the invisible force could be an exchange of force carrier particles. Particle physicists have found that we can explain the force of one particle acting on another to INCREDIBLE precision by the exchange of these force carrier particles.

One important thing to know about force carriers is that a particular force carrier particle can only be absorbed or produced by a matter particle which is affected by that particular force. For instance, electrons and protons have electric charge, so they can produce and absorb the electromagnetic force carrier, the photon. Neutrinos, on the other hand, have no electric charge, so they cannot absorb or produce photons."
 
richerrich, you ought to read Feynman's "QED". It is a very approachable little book that explains everything.
 
JDługosz said:
richerrich, you ought to read Feynman's "QED". It is a very approachable little book that explains everything.

Thank you.
 
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