# B Photons bending

#### weirdoguy

Because definition of frequency is such that we can ascribe it to different phenomena. We don't need any deeper connection between them and I really don't understand why you treat frequency as if it were something special. As I said, it's one of many characteristics, not main one.

#### ZapperZ

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Than why can we describe Hz in different phenomenas, where is the connection between these phenomenas?
A object makes 20 complete revolution in a circular motion path in 20 seconds. We can describe that it as having a frequency of 1 Hz.

So, I used the same units here, i.e. Hz. Tell me what's "vibrating".

Zz.

#### weirdoguy

We can describe that it as having a frequency of 20 Hz.
1Hz

#### ZapperZ

Staff Emeritus
2018 Award
Thanks. I think one thing, and my fingers do their own thing sometime.

Zz.

#### itallcomestoenergy

A object makes 20 complete revolution in a circular motion path in 20 seconds. We can describe that it as having a frequency of 1 Hz.

So, I used the same units here, i.e. Hz. Tell me what's "vibrating".

Zz.
Vibrating is something that operates as a wave. The simplest form of wave is a sine(?)

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#### ZapperZ

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Vibrating is something that operates as a wave. The simplest form of wave is a sine(?)

I brought up something that can be described in terms of the unit "Hz". You claim that everything using that unit must be a vibration. I asked you to tell me what is "vibrating" in that example that I gave. Please answer that.

Zz.

#### itallcomestoenergy

I brought up something that can be described in terms of the unit "Hz". You claim that everything using that unit must be a vibration. I asked you to tell me what is "vibrating" in that example that I gave. Please answer that.

Zz.
Im sorry. Phenomenas operating as a wave affects everything around it. So the vibration in this particular example, comes also from it surroundings. Thereby might particles vibrate. For example phonons.

#### ZapperZ

Staff Emeritus
2018 Award
Im sorry,

Im sorry. Phenomenas operating as a wave affects everything around it. So the vibration in this particular example, comes also from it surroundings. Thereby might particles vibrate. For example phonons.
Not only is this puzzling, but it is also nonsensical.

There are no phonons here.

So one last time before I stop playing this game, what is vibrating in my example?

Zz.

#### itallcomestoenergy

Not only is this puzzling, but it is also nonsensical.

There are no phonons here.

So one last time before I stop playing this game, what is vibrating in my example?

Zz.
It was an example, just as you had one example. I have no answer. Yet

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#### ZapperZ

Staff Emeritus
2018 Award
It was an example, just as you had one example. I have no answer.

It was an example, just as you had one example. I have no answer. Yet..
It was an example of what, your inability to comprehend the scenario?

Zz.

#### itallcomestoenergy

It was an example of what, your inability to comprehend the scenario?

Zz.
There was no question in your post

#### Mister T

Gold Member
Okey, so the medium is vacuum.
No. There is no medium.

What about sound waves? They operate in a lower frequency,
No. Sound waves are vibrations of a medium.

#### itallcomestoenergy

No. There is no medium.

No. Sound waves are vibrations of a medium.
Yes, and the medium is particles in the air, water or more solid matter.

#### Dale

Mentor
Vibrating is something that operates as a wave. The simplest form of wave is a sine(?)
Not all waves are vibrations and not all vibrations are waves. They are two different things that you are trying to mix up here.

At this point I am closing this thread. You seem to have some sort of weird “vibration” agenda. We are neither interested in helping you promote your agenda nor in the Sisyphean task of arguing about it. Please be aware that all posts must be consistent with the professional scientific literature.

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