Physics Major Jobs: Career Options & Salaries

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The discussion revolves around the career prospects and salary expectations for individuals with physics degrees, particularly focusing on the differences between undergraduate, master's, and PhD holders. Participants explore the job market for physicists, the relevance of physics education to employment opportunities, and the potential for transitioning into other fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about job availability for physics graduates, particularly outside the USA.
  • Others argue that a physics degree provides a broad education that may not directly translate to a job in physics but can lead to various career paths.
  • There are mentions of statistics indicating that many physics graduates find good employment and report high job satisfaction.
  • Participants discuss the potential for master's degree holders in physics to work in fields like cosmology, but also highlight the need for practical skills that are in demand in the job market.
  • Some contributions suggest that skills learned in theoretical physics can be applied in business contexts, such as financial modeling or consulting for tech companies.
  • Experiences shared by participants indicate that many physics graduates have successfully transitioned into roles in software engineering, finance, and consultancy, despite not working directly in physics.
  • Concerns are raised about the job market in specific regions, such as Lebanon, where opportunities for physics graduates may be limited.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of additional skills, such as programming, to enhance employability in various sectors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that while there are challenges in finding jobs directly related to physics, many graduates do find successful careers in various fields. However, there is no consensus on the extent of job availability or the best paths to take after obtaining a physics degree.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the relevance of statistics from organizations like the American Institute of Physics may vary depending on geographic location and local job markets. Additionally, the discussion highlights the importance of practical skills alongside academic qualifications, which may not be uniformly addressed in physics education.

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Hello,
So i wanted to ask , am i to die of hunger if i graduate with a physics degree ?
Because asides from the USA i don't think there's that much work for physicists .
Also , what are the jobs differences between an undergraduate , a master's holder and a phd holder in physics ?
Thanks
 
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Where do you live? Do people often die of hunger there?

You are being dramatic. That is not going to help you get advice. With a physics degree you can still do anything somebody without a degree does, right? Generally, there is not much work as a physicist, but there is other work that may or may not be related to your degree.
 
ModusPwnd said:
Where do you live? Do people often die of hunger there?

You are being dramatic. That is not going to help you get advice. With a physics degree you can still do anything somebody without a degree does, right? Generally, there is not much work as a physicist, but there is other work that may or may not be related to your degree.
No it was nothing but a dramatisation. I am sorry. But still am i going to live properly with a good salary for example? I love physics but this thing bugs me.
 
You might want to check out some of the AIP Statistics for some data relevant to your question.

It's important to keep in mnd that in pursuing a physics degree, what you're doing is getting an education in physics. This is not the same as job training. What that means is that when you graduate with a physics degree, you'll have the option of going on into graduate studies or you'll have to figure out how to earn a living with the education that you have. With an undergraduate degree it is very likely that you won't end up doing physics for a living.

The good news is that the data seem to indicate that the majority of people who obtain physics degrees do quite well - earning starting salaries that are in the middle of the pack among the distribution of starting salaries in the engineering disciplines, having low unemployment rates, reporting relatively high job satisfaction, etc.
 
Choppy said:
You might want to check out some of the AIP Statistics for some data relevant to your question.

It's important to keep in mnd that in pursuing a physics degree, what you're doing is getting an education in physics. This is not the same as job training. What that means is that when you graduate with a physics degree, you'll have the option of going on into graduate studies or you'll have to figure out how to earn a living with the education that you have. With an undergraduate degree it is very likely that you won't end up doing physics for a living.

The good news is that the data seem to indicate that the majority of people who obtain physics degrees do quite well - earning starting salaries that are in the middle of the pack among the distribution of starting salaries in the engineering disciplines, having low unemployment rates, reporting relatively high job satisfaction, etc.

OP's profile indicates that he's from Lebanon, in which case I'm not convinced the American Institute of Physics is particularly relevant in their situation, unless they decide to move to the U.S. (or a country that provides similar opportunities for its Ph.Ds, like western Europe, Canada, etc.)
 
Choppy said:
You might want to check out some of the AIP Statistics for some data relevant to your question.

It's important to keep in mnd that in pursuing a physics degree, what you're doing is getting an education in physics. This is not the same as job training. What that means is that when you graduate with a physics degree, you'll have the option of going on into graduate studies or you'll have to figure out how to earn a living with the education that you have. With an undergraduate degree it is very likely that you won't end up doing physics for a living.

The good news is that the data seem to indicate that the majority of people who obtain physics degrees do quite well - earning starting salaries that are in the middle of the pack among the distribution of starting salaries in the engineering disciplines, having low unemployment rates, reporting relatively high job satisfaction, etc.
So what i understand is that i have to figure out a way of making a living. But what about a master's in physics for example, where could that get me ? And keep in mind that i would prefer theoretical physics like cosmology astronomy ...
 
axmls said:
OP's profile indicates that he's from Lebanon, in which case I'm not convinced the American Institute of Physics is particularly relevant in their situation, unless they decide to move to the U.S. (or a country that provides similar opportunities for its Ph.Ds, like western Europe, Canada, etc.)
Yeah that is my problem. But anyways it's impossible for me to stay here because in Lebanon there is nothing you can do with a physics degree other than teaching and teachers are very poorly treated in here. Do you have any idea about moving to the USA or Canada for exemple ? I don't know how to do it and what do i need to get there.
 
jamalkoiyess said:
So what i understand is that i have to figure out a way of making a living. But what about a master's in physics for example, where could that get me ? And keep in mind that i would prefer theoretical physics like cosmology astronomy ...

The thing with making the jump out of academia and into the business world is that you need to be able to do something that someone else needs done. If you study cosmology at a master's level, that's great, but not too many people have a need to know the rate of inflation of the universe within their business model. On the other hand though, some people will need MSc level physicists to help them develop better techniques to explore the Earth for oil, to help them fabricate better microchips or solar cells, or to figure out how to put the right amount radiation into a patient's tumour to kill it but not the patient. I think some people are able to successfully translate skills they learn in theoretical physics into financial modeling, so that may be an option too.
 
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Just to give you an idea, my academic advisor's first student (they are theorists) to leave physics started a hedge fund and is now incredibly wealthy. A post doc I know (also a theorist) just went to work as a software engineer at a startup in SF. A grad student (also a theorist) said it would be possible for him to consult for tech companies as a post doc to make extra money. So these people all worked (or are working) in pretty exotic areas of theory but still got great jobs outside of academia. As long as you have some basic programming/Matlab skills you can get a lot of these jobs.
 
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I did a PhD in (applied) physics, and no physics student I know from that period is starving or even unemployed. They all have good jobs at banks, research institutes, engineering and consultancy companies, etc.
You have to realize that the odds of getting a job in exactly the field you graduated in are quite slim. It is all the other stuff you know that will actually open the job-market for you: know some programming languages, CAD/FEM/CFD/statistical software, experience with certain measurement or tooling equipment, general knowledge on mechanics/physics, etc.

Well, I guess it's more or less the same as what radium said.
 
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Hello,

If you want to be technically correct, ie when we talk about matching college education to job profiles..then most physics bachelor students go into software/programming, at bachelor level..that is the one of the few only applied aspect of many physics degrees. My relative at another university (top uni in germany) said that most physics bachelor students go into programming.

jamalkoiyess said:
So what i understand is that i have to figure out a way of making a living. But what about a master's in physics for example, where could that get me ? And keep in mind that i would prefer theoretical physics like cosmology astronomy ...

Apart from that you can do many of the general jobs. When someone talks about finance/hedge/consulting, well those don't really care too much about your degree as long as its of a good university and grades are higher than average for a bachelor student, not PhD. I know of one person who studied maths nd physics to master and they work in telecom.

Job prospects are there but it can be extremely tough sometimes, unlike other applied science degrees it is much more risky. If you want to make a decent living there are far better degrees that are more relevant to industries. my relative has done an MBA after physics and now works in marketing.

PS: I was accepted to study a bachelor in physics, but because of my poor maths skills and just generally shaky prospects right out of bachelors in the country, I did not enroll. So my advice comes from some experience and research at least.
 
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