Physics Olympiad Vector Acceleration

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The problem involves a particle of mass 2.00 kg subjected to a force that varies with position, leading to a discussion on vector acceleration and motion in two dimensions. The particle starts at the origin with a specified initial velocity, and the questions focus on the time it takes to return to the origin and the maximum distance from it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law and the kinematic equation, questioning the validity of using the latter due to the non-constant acceleration. There is also mention of using calculus to analyze the motion, indicating a shift towards a more advanced approach.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some have raised concerns about the assumptions made regarding constant acceleration and the need for a calculus-based approach. There is no explicit consensus yet on how to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the acceleration is not constant, which complicates the use of standard kinematic equations. There is also a suggestion that the equations provided may not be applicable in their current form.

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass 2.00 kg moves under a force given by
F~ = −(8.00 N/m)(xˆi + yˆj)
whereˆi and ˆj are unit vectors in the x and y directions. The particle is placed at the origin with an initial velocity~v = (3.00 m/s)ˆi + (4.00 m/s)ˆj.

a. After how much time will the particle first return to the origin?
b. What is the maximum distance between the particle and the origin?



Homework Equations


f=ma
x=vt+1/2at^2


The Attempt at a Solution


Using f=ma, i find the acceleration to be a=-4x i + -4y j
Using x=vt+1/2at^2, if i set x as 0
So i get 0=3t+1/2(-4x)t^2 and 0=4t+1/2(-4y)t^2
I solve those 2 equtaions to get 3y=4x
but i don't know where to continue
 
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bazookajason said:

Homework Statement


A particle of mass 2.00 kg moves under a force given by
F~ = −(8.00 N/m)(xˆi + yˆj)
whereˆi and ˆj are unit vectors in the x and y directions. The particle is placed at the origin with an initial velocity~v = (3.00 m/s)ˆi + (4.00 m/s)ˆj.

a. After how much time will the particle first return to the origin?
b. What is the maximum distance between the particle and the origin?

Homework Equations


f=ma
x=vt+1/2at^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Using f=ma, i find the acceleration to be a=-4x i + -4y j
Using x=vt+1/2at^2, if i set x as 0
So i get 0=3t+1/2(-4x)t^2 and 0=4t+1/2(-4y)t^2
I solve those 2 equations to get 3y=4x
but i don't know where to continue
The equation
x=vt+(1/2)at2
has 2 big problems.
1. It's only true for uniform (constant) acceleration. The acceleration here is not constant.

2. Even if the acceleration were constant you should only have included x components.​
 
hm do i use calculus?
a= derivative of x
 
anyone?
 

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