Physics question about deriving a one dimensional kinematic equation?

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The discussion centers on deriving the one-dimensional kinematic equation ΔY = 1/2AT^2 for a dropped stone, starting from the basic principles of motion. It highlights that the equation ΔY = AT^2 is incorrect without accounting for the average velocity, which is why the factor of 1/2 is necessary. The kinematic equations are emphasized as useful tools, but understanding their underlying assumptions is crucial for proper application. The conversation suggests that deriving these equations can enhance comprehension of their validity and limitations. Overall, grasping the reasoning behind the kinematic equations is essential for solving physics problems effectively.
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Okay, we all know that

ΔX = ViT + 1/2AT^2

Say I drop a stone from rest and I want to find its distance at a given time knowing the acceleration. Since the initial velocity is zero and its accelerating vertically we can say.

ΔY = 1/2AT^2
ΔY = (AT^2) / 2 <------------------------- Keep in mind this equation.

Now, let's start from scratch with this.

D = VT
In this case we can say.
ΔY = VT
If the stone is being dropped we can say that.
Vf = Vi + AT
V = AT

ΔY = (AT)T
ΔY = AT^2 <---------------------------------------… Now compare this equation to the one I got earlier.

Why are we dividing by 2 ?
 
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zeromodz said:
Okay, we all know that

ΔX = ViT + 1/2AT^2

Say I drop a stone from rest and I want to find its distance at a given time knowing the acceleration. Since the initial velocity is zero and its accelerating vertically we can say.

ΔY = 1/2AT^2
ΔY = (AT^2) / 2 <------------------------- Keep in mind this equation.

Now, let's start from scratch with this.

D = VT
In this case we can say.
ΔY = VT
If the stone is being dropped we can say that.
Vf = Vi + AT
V = AT

ΔY = (AT)T
ΔY = AT^2 <---------------------------------------… Now compare this equation to the one I got earlier.

Why are we dividing by 2 ?

The D=VT equation is only valid for an AVERAGE velocity. You will note that d=vt+1/2at^2 reduces to this in a=0, since average velocity is the same as instantaneous velocity.

The kinematic equations are nice for solving problems, but you really need to realize what the assumptions behind each of them is. It helps if you derive them all at least once, so you know HOW to get the equation and exactly what was assumed for that derivation.

Cheers!
 
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