Pistons, Pressure, Work, and Height

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The discussion centers on solving a physics problem involving a lead piston in a circular container, with a mass of 50 kg and 0.140 mol of compressed air. The user, Phoenix, initially struggled with calculating the piston height at 30°C and the effects of temperature changes on piston movement. Key equations used include P=F/A for pressure and PV=nRT for gas laws. The solution required converting measurements to the correct units, specifically MKS, to achieve accurate results.

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1. Homework Statement


A circular disc of lead has a mass 50 kg, it acts as the piston of a circular container shown in Figure CP16.69. The disc floats on 0.140 mol of compressed air. (Image Attached)

Figure CP16.69

(a) What is the piston height h if the temperature is 30°C?
cm

(b) How far does the piston move if the temperature is increased by 105°C?
cm

The following questions involve work, recall conditions for (-) work and (+) work ...
(c) How much work did the atmosphere do on the piston?
Nm

(d) How much work did the gravity field do on the lead piston
Nm

(e) How much work did the gas do on the lead piston?
Nm


Homework Equations



P= F/A
PV=nRT

The Attempt at a Solution



I haven't tried anything but A- I'm stuck on that one.

I first found the pressure using P=F/a. I found the weight by doing 50*9.8m/s2 and then divided by (pi)*r^2. That answer, which is already in Pa, I then added to 101,300 pa, the atmospheric constant for pressure. That pressure I used in PV= nRT to find volume. Then I used the volume of a cylinder formula (V= (pi)*r^2*h) to find height. This answer did not come out right (and I made sure to be in centimeters). Does anyone know where I'm going wrong?

Thanks in advance!

~Phoenix
 

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Phoenixtears said:

Homework Statement



A circular disc of lead has a mass 50 kg, it acts as the piston of a circular container shown in Figure CP16.69. The disc floats on 0.140 mol of compressed air. (Image Attached)

Figure CP16.69

(a) What is the piston height h if the temperature is 30°C?
cm

...

I first found the pressure using P=F/a. I found the weight by doing 50*9.8m/s2 and then divided by (pi)*r^2. That answer, which is already in Pa, I then added to 101,300 pa, the atmospheric constant for pressure. That pressure I used in PV= nRT to find volume. Then I used the volume of a cylinder formula (V= (pi)*r^2*h) to find height. This answer did not come out right (and I made sure to be in centimeters). Does anyone know where I'm going wrong?
Your approach is correct. If you give us all the information we will be able to check it. We need the radius of the cylinder. Then show us your work. I am not sure why you are working in centimeters. You should be working in MKS.

AM
 
Thanks! I figured out what was going wrong. I had kept my answer in meters instead of centimeters. It's so frustrating when that happens.

Thanks again!
 

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