Plane Indices: An Interesting Debate

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The discussion centers on the complexities of determining the Miller indices for a specific plane in crystallography. Participants debate the implications of choosing different origins for the lattice points, with Shrifpy referencing a tool, the Miller Indices Lattice Draw, to visualize the indices. Johng23 emphasizes that if the plane passes through the origin, all intercepts become zero, complicating the identification of the plane. The conversation highlights the nuances of using Miller indices, particularly in material science applications.

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  • Understanding of Miller indices in crystallography
  • Familiarity with lattice points and intercepts
  • Basic knowledge of crystallographic planes
  • Experience using visualization tools like the Miller Indices Lattice Draw
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  • Research the mathematical derivation of Miller indices
  • Explore advanced visualization techniques for crystallographic planes
  • Learn about the limitations of Miller indices in modern material science
  • Investigate alternative indexing methods for crystallographic analysis
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Material scientists, crystallographers, and students studying solid-state physics who seek to deepen their understanding of crystallographic planes and Miller indices.

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Hi Guys,
What are the milled indices of plane (see attached figure). Its very interesting...and I am receiving every-time different answer from others.
Have a look.

Shriphy
 

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Remember you can put the origin at any lattice point.
 
Bravo Johng23,
Your answer is perfect...I was checking all suggestion by inserting values on the link http://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/miller_indices/lattice_draw.php
but no value was leading for this plane except yours.
But still I can't say that I got it 100%. Here x intercept is 1, y intercept is 0 and z is 1/2. So according to definition Miller indices should be reduced reciprocal of intercept...then what about x intercept...which should not be 0??
correct me please
 
Hi Johng23,
I got that if we consider origin at b=1 on given y-axis point then indices are as you said...but if we consider origin at some other points (suppose a=1 on x axis) then answer will be different. Kindly is there any idea rule to consider origin??
In any case thanks for your consideration.

shriphy

Shriphy
 
It the plane goes through the origin, every intercept is zero. That's not very helpful in determining which plane it is. As long as the origin is not lying in the plane you should be fine.
 
Don't worry, Miller indices are an archaic tool used by "material scientists" and don't come up in real condensed matter.
 
Wow, that's pretty arrogant.
 

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