Preparing for Math & Physics GRE: Tips & Strategies

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The discussion revolves around the decision to take the GRE in both physics and mathematics while preparing for graduate school applications in theoretical or mathematical physics. Participants explore the implications of taking the math GRE, its potential impact on applications, and the value of focusing on research experience versus standardized test scores.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether taking the math GRE would enhance their application, especially if they achieve good scores.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of the math GRE if it is not required by the programs to which the original poster is applying.
  • Some participants suggest that taking the math GRE may not significantly impress admissions committees and could be better spent on research or skill development.
  • Concerns are raised about how taking the math GRE might be perceived by admissions committees, particularly regarding the applicant's focus on physics.
  • A participant shares their experience preparing for the physics GRE, emphasizing the discipline required and questioning the value of preparing for multiple GREs.
  • Another participant argues that good GRE scores cannot compensate for poor grades in coursework, regardless of research experience.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on the value of taking the math GRE. Some believe it could be beneficial, while others argue it may not significantly impact admissions decisions and suggest focusing on research instead.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence in their math skills and the relevance of GRE scores to their overall application. There is also a recognition of the differing requirements of various graduate programs.

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I am taking one year break to work and relieve myself from the burden of the university. I studied physics and minor mathematics. I will apply to PhD or Masters next year. (I will take the GRE next year too).

I took the following materials for my minor math:
- Real Analysis
- Abstract Algebra
- Complex Analysis
- Differential Geometry
- PDE
- Tensor Calculus/Analysis
- Applied math

I am not as good in math as physics. I had my difficulties with it, but I liked all the courses.

I was thinking of taking both GRE exams, one in physics and the other in mathematics, because I want to apply for theoretical/mathematical physics. (Not sure yet which one)

My questions:
- Would that supplement my resume if I made relatively good to excellent scores?
- I looked at math GRE martial requirements and it seems very broad and vague compared to the physics GRE which is specific. What math material should I focus on?I expect to get in physics GRE excellent to good. In math GRE I expect to get OK to good. (I am currently revising both, physics and math materials and I am taking my time studying them)

Footnote: I am prioritizing the physics GRE of course, but if I have the time I will do the math GRE.
 
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Phylosopher said:
I was thinking of taking both GRE exams, one in physics and the other in mathematics, because I want to apply for theoretical/mathematical physics. (Not sure yet which one)

Do any of the places you are applying to require the Math subject GRE? If not, why are you taking it?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Do any of the places you are applying to require the Math subject GRE? If not, why are you taking it?

For the time being. I looked only for theoretical physics masters and PhD's. They sometimes require physics GRE. But I am not sure about the mathematical physics PhD's
 
Vanadium 50 said:
why are you taking it?

I am not a first class student. So I was thinking that having good GRE in math and physics can supplement and improve my status when I apply for graduate school. Especially that I am considering theoretical/mathematical physics degree.

I only take such degree once in my life. So I am trying to improve my status as much as possible.
 
Phylosopher said:
But I am not sure about the mathematical physics PhD's

So, don't you think you should look that up?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
So, don't you think you should look that up?

I should, and I will.

I understand what you are aiming for. But I want to know your opinion on the posted question with the assumption that a GRE in mathematics is not required, if this help you narrowing the answer.

Phylosopher said:
- Would that supplement my resume if I made relatively good to excellent scores?
 
For what it's worth, I don't think that taking the GRE for another subject when it's not required for the admissions process is going to knock anyone's socks off on an admissions committee. There's a very good chance that at best it will be a bullet point on your application. While not harmful, it would seem to me that there are better ways to spend your time such as getting involved in a research project or developing some specific skills that might be useful to your potential PhD projects.
 
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Choppy said:
For what it's worth, I don't think that taking the GRE for another subject when it's not required for the admissions process is going to knock anyone's socks off on an admissions committee. There's a very good chance that at best it will be a bullet point on your application. While not harmful, it would seem to me that there are better ways to spend your time such as getting involved in a research project or developing some specific skills that might be useful to your potential PhD projects.
Thanks for your reply.

True, I am trying to get a job as a research assistant for next year.
 
I don't see how this can possibly help. What are you trying to tell the admissions committee? That you know better than they do what documents they need? That you have taken a test that enables you to apply to other departments and that maybe you're not so interested in physics?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
I don't see how this can possibly help. What are you trying to tell the admissions committee? That you know better than they do what documents they need? That you have taken a test that enables you to apply to other departments and that maybe you're not so interested in physics?

I was thinking this way: I am not a first year student, but I am applying to top universities. I know that I am good enough to score good in both physics and math GRE. And so, this can complement my flawed grades! (I know. Grades are not everything, but you can't say they are nothing. I guess)

That's all.

I just wanted others opinion on whether its worth it or not. I hope I wasn't asking for much!

Choppy for example replied that it is worth more if you did research rather than wasting time preparing for another GRE.
 
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When I took the Physics GRE, I spent many hours studying and practicing. It takes a lot of discipline to sit for almost 3 hours and solve problems, allotting less than 2 min per problem. I don't know why you'd want to do that for two different subjects.

My other point is that the PGRE was something that I had to train for in order to excel at. I also thought that I would do quite well at first, and after taking my first practice test I realized that I would have to really kick it into high gear and learn the test inside and out in order to get the score that I wanted.

Maybe this is not the case for you, but I don't think these GREs are good barometers of your knowledge that you can take cold and expect to get a good score.
 
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I don't think this is going to help. It's certainly not going to overcome bad grades - it doesn't matter how good a researcher you are, if you can't make it through your classwork and qual.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
I don't think this is going to help. It's certainly not going to overcome bad grades - it doesn't matter how good a researcher you are, if you can't make it through your classwork and qual.

Thanks for the reply
 

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