Please confirm Hydrogen atom question

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The discussion revolves around the energy levels of a hydrogen atom and the calculation of photon wavelengths emitted during electron transitions. The original poster seeks assistance in determining the electron's energy level and the wavelengths of emitted photons when transitioning from the second excited state (n=3).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate energy differences and photon wavelengths but encounters negative values, prompting questions about the correctness of their calculations and assumptions regarding energy levels.
  • Some participants question the accuracy of the energy values provided and suggest that the original poster clarify their source.
  • Others inquire about the number of possible photon emissions from the excited state, indicating a need to explore multiple transitions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on understanding the implications of energy signs and the nature of photon emissions. There is a focus on clarifying the original poster's calculations and assumptions, with no consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the energy values may not reflect real-world examples, and there is an emphasis on understanding the transitions from the excited state to lower energy levels.

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Homework Statement



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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Energy (J)

n = 3 ----------------------------------------… - 0.24x10^-16
n = 2 ----------------------------------------… - 0.54x10^-18
n = 1 ----------------------------------------… - 2.18x10^-18

In which level is the electron to be found in a normal hydrogen atom? (need help with this question)

If the electron is promoted to the second excited state, (n=3), calculate the wavelengths of the photons which may be emitted?

(Planck's constant, h - 6.6x10^-34 Js c = 3.0x10^8 ms^-1)

Any help is greatly appreciated


Homework Equations



ΔE = hf

λ = c/v

h = 6.6x10^-34

c = 3.0x10^8


The Attempt at a Solution



n = 2 = - 0.54x10^-18
n = 3 = - 0.24x10^-16
ΔE = - 2.54x10^-17

ΔE = hf = - 2.54x10^-17 = 6.6x10^-34f

f = - 2.54x10^-17/6.6x10^-34 = -3.71x10^16 Hz

λ = c/v

λ = 3.0x10^8/- 3.71x10^16

λ = - 8.09x10^-9

See I know it's wrong as I end up with a negative value

Could you please point me in the right direction and explain the steps that are wrong please
 
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First the negative sign. Photon energies are always positive. The negative sign applies to the energy change of the emitting atom. If ΔE is positive/negative the atom gains/loses the energy that is carried by the absorbed/emitted photon.

The energies that you calculated for the first three level do not look correct. If you think they are, please show exactly how you got them.

Finally, to answer this question you need to consider all the possibilities of photon emission from the second excited state; they are more than one.
 
Hi, thanks for the reply, the energies calculated for the first 3 energies are on the sheet given to me by the lecturer so not calculated by myself.

I assume they are not real world examples
 
OK then. How many possibilities of emitted photons exist?
 
You can safely assume than the electron is in the ground state in a normal H atom.

For your next question, figure out in how many ways an electron in n = 3 can decay to a lower energy state.
 

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