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The discussion revolves around understanding derivatives, specifically focusing on the algebraic methods to find them for polynomial and rational functions. Participants reference specific examples, including f(x)=x^3 and g(x)=1/x, while seeking clarification on the application of derivative rules.

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  • Participants discuss the power rule for derivatives and its application to the given functions. Questions arise regarding the treatment of constants in derivative calculations and the interpretation of negative exponents.

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Some participants express confusion about the derivative process and seek clarification on specific steps. Others attempt to explain derivative rules and apply them to different functions, indicating a mix of understanding and uncertainty. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance is being offered on how to approach the problems.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of derivative rules, including the power rule and the handling of constants. There is also a discussion about the notation and interpretation of negative exponents, which may lead to misunderstandings.

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Ok, I need help understanding this really bad. I don't get it. There were examples of derivatives in the book but I don't get how they got the answer. Here were the examples.

They all said to find the derivatives algebraically.

f(x)=x[tex]^3[/tex] at x=-2

The answer was 12.

f(x)=x[tex]^3[/tex]+5 at x=1

The answer was 3.

How did they get these answers, I don't understand it, can someone help explain?
 
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ok for f(x)=xn we know that f'(x)=nxn-1

So in your first example f(x)=x3, so what is n and what is f'(x)? When you find f'(x) just put x=2 into your equation.
 


Ah, that clears it up. A little confusing but I see that 3(-2)[tex]^3^-^1[/tex]=12

Thanks.

But for the second one, are you not supposed to do anything with the +5?
 


Okay, I have a weird one of this. It says find the derivative of g(x)=1/x at x=2 algebraically. So I got

g'(x)=1(2)[tex]^1^-^1[/tex] which is 2[tex]^0[/tex] which =1. Right? There were no exponents so I put 1, just want to make sure I am doing this right.
 


neutron star said:
Ah, that clears it up. A little confusing but I see that 3(-2)[tex]^3^-^1[/tex]=12

Thanks.

But for the second one, are you not supposed to do anything with the +5?

for the second one, f(x)=x3+5, then f'(x)=d/dx(x3)+d/dx(5)

neutron star said:
Okay, I have a weird one of this. It says find the derivative of g(x)=1/x at x=2 algebraically. So I got

g'(x)=1(2)[tex]^1^-^1[/tex] which is 2[tex]^0[/tex] which =1. Right? There were no exponents so I put 1, just want to make sure I am doing this right.

g(x)=1/x , so we can see this is not in the form xn.But we know a rule in indices that says 1/am=a-m

So now using this rule what is another way to write 1/x?

g(x) ?
 


rock.freak667 said:
for the second one, f(x)=x3+5, then f'(x)=d/dx(x3)+d/dx(5)
g(x)=1/x , so we can see this is not in the form xn.But we know a rule in indices that says 1/am=a-m

So now using this rule what is another way to write 1/x?

g(x) ?

Ok, so it would be -1(2)[tex]^-^1^-^1[/tex], which is -2^-2 =1/4 right?
 


neutron star said:
Ok, so it would be -1(2)[tex]^-^1^-^1[/tex], which is -2^-2 =1/4 right?

remember -ab means you take '-a' and raise it to the power of b

-(a)b means you take 'a' and raise to the power of 'b' and then multiply by -1
 


rock.freak667 said:
remember -ab means you take '-a' and raise it to the power of b

-(a)b means you take 'a' and raise to the power of 'b' and then multiply by -1

Ok so you mean 2^-1 which is 1/2 and then 1/2(-1) which is -1/2?
 


neutron star said:
Ok so you mean 2^-1 which is 1/2 and then 1/2(-1) which is -1/2?

no no, you have -(2)-1-1=-(2)-2=-(2-2). So what number do you get now?
 
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-1/4.
 
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neutron star said:
-1/4.

and that is correct.
 
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Cool, thanks. I see how that works.
 
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rock.freak667 said:
remember -ab means you take '-a' and raise it to the power of b

This is false. -ab means -(ab).

If you meant raising -a to the bth power, you have to write (-a)b.

--Elucidus
 

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