Plot Intrinsic Equations Free with KmPLot and Maxima

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The discussion revolves around finding a program or application that can plot intrinsic equations, with a focus on the capabilities of KmPLot and Maxima, as well as the use of Origin for this purpose. The conversation touches on the definitions and characteristics of intrinsic equations and the challenges faced in plotting them using available software.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about free software for plotting intrinsic equations, mentioning KmPLot and Maxima but expressing dissatisfaction with their capabilities.
  • Another participant suggests Origin as a solution, although it is not free.
  • A participant shares their experience with Origin, noting difficulty in finding information on plotting intrinsic equations in the help files and asking for guidance on how to plot a specific intrinsic equation for a parabola.
  • Another reply provides a general method for creating graphs in Origin, but does not specifically address intrinsic equations.
  • A participant clarifies the definition of intrinsic equations, emphasizing their unique characteristics compared to Cartesian and polar coordinates, and expresses frustration over the lack of responses to their query on the Origin forum regarding plotting intrinsic equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the capabilities of the suggested software for plotting intrinsic equations. There is a clear lack of agreement on how to effectively use Origin for this purpose, as well as uncertainty regarding the definitions and plotting methods for intrinsic equations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the documentation of software like Origin concerning intrinsic equations, as well as the participants' varying interpretations of what constitutes an intrinsic equation.

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Anyone know of a program/application/applet that will plot/graph intrinsic equations ?
(preferably free)

I've already had suggestions for KmPLot and Maxima, but neither, it seems, can do the job.
KmPLot is mainly for Linux and I'm on Win XP. (also Vista)
 
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Try Origin, it's the best for this. But it is not free.
 
Thanks. I've downloaded the evaluation copy. But I can't find any reference to "intrinsic" in the help files.. There's nothing in the plot menu about intrinsic equations either.

The intrinsic equaion for the parabola is,

s = a tan(psi) sec(psi) + a log(tan(psi)+sec(psi)).

How would I use Origin to plot this?

TIA
 
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go to menu Graph/add function graph/then copy-paste your equations, or use the drop down menu to choose elementary functions to combine them into your formula.

And they have an excellent forum there http://www.originlab.com/forum/default.asp
 
Thanks for the input Trebmling, but I'm wondering if we have been talking at cross purposes.

An intrinsic equation, of the form s=f(psi), passes through the origin. s is the distance along the curve from the origin to a point of interest and psi (or tan(psi)) is the slope of the curve at the point of interest. (In other words, s and psi are not rectangular/Cartesian coordinates, or polar coordinates.)

I've been to the Origin forum and posted my query there - "how do I use Origin to plot an intrinsic equation?" - using the above description of an intrinsic eqn. I've had no responses.

I can go into Origin, create a new graph, and give a function, which will be F(x)=cos(x), say - a Cartesian equn. I can tell Origin to treat this as a polar eqn. But can I tell Origin to treat it as an intrinsic equation?

This is what I still can't get.
 

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