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The discussion revolves around the role of the constant term ##d## in the equation of a plane, specifically the point-normal form ##ax + by + cz + d = 0##. Participants explore its geometric implications and how it relates to the positioning of the plane in three-dimensional space.

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  • One participant questions the geometric significance of the constant ##d## in the plane equation.
  • Another participant explains that ##d## determines which of the infinite parallel planes is being considered, similar to how a constant in a line equation identifies a specific line among parallel lines.
  • A further contribution clarifies that a nonzero ##d## shifts the plane away from the origin, drawing parallels to the slope-intercept form of a line.
  • One participant acknowledges the insights provided by others and expresses intent to use a 3D graphing program for better visualization.

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Participants generally agree on the role of ##d## in determining the specific plane among parallel options, but the discussion remains open regarding the full geometric interpretation and implications of ##d##.

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Participants reference analogies to two-dimensional cases and the relationship between the equations of lines and planes, but the discussion does not resolve all aspects of the geometric interpretation of ##d##.

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##ax +by +cz +d = 0## is the equation of a plane orthogonal to ##(a,b,c)## but why is there a d in the equation? What does it do to the plane geometrically?

http://i.imgur.com/sMiLhHc.jpg?1

I don't see how the d fits into that geometric interpretation.
 
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There are an infinite number of parallel planes perpendicular to (a,b,c). Effectively the d determines which one you are considering, sort of how far along (a,b,c) it crosses (a,b,c).
Think of the 2 dimensional case - ax+by+c=0, a & b determine the slope of the line and c determines where it crosses the axes. There would be an infinite number of parallel lines in the plane all described by the a,b combination, the c fixes on a particular one of the lines.
 
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If it's nonzero, ##d## moves the plane away from the origin.

Remember ##y=mx+b## from algebra? For the sake of demonstration, let's change the letters around to ##y=-\frac{\alpha}{\beta}x-\frac{\gamma}{\beta}##, so that the ##m=-\frac{\alpha}{\beta}## and ##b=-\frac{\gamma}{\beta}##. The equation of our line can now be rewritten as ##\alpha x+\beta y+\gamma=0##. The ##\gamma## of the second from is playing a similar role to the ##b## of the slope-intercept form; it's giving us information regarding a shift away from the origin.

If you recall, the slope of the line perpendicular to this one is given by ##m_\perp=-\frac{1}{m}=\frac{\beta}{\alpha}##. And given this information it's not too hard to check that the 2-vector ##(\alpha,\beta)## is normal to the line that we started out with.

Switching back to "normal" letters, we have what's called the "standard form" of the equation of a line given by $$ax+by+c=0$$ immediately comparable to the standard form of the equation of a plane $$ax+by+cz+d=0$$ with all of the letters playing comparable roles; the coefficients of the variable terms tell us what a normal vector is, and the constant term provides a shift away from the origin.

Now having been shown how the equation of a line, "flat" one-dimensional subset of two-dimensional space, is essentially the same as that of a plane, a "flat" two-dimensional subset of three-dimensional space, can you guess what form the equation of the "flat" (n-1)-dimensional subset of n-dimensional space (called a "hyperplane") has?

Edit: Having examined your attachment, I feel the need to mention that the "point-normal" form of the equation of a plane is comparable to a rearrangement (in a manner similar that that presented above) of the good-old point slope form of the equation of a line.
 
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gopher_p said:
If it's nonzero, ##d## moves the plane away from the origin.

This was the closest answer to the question I was really asking. Bhillyard you made a very interesting point that didn't occur to me though, about how the constant is the identifying coordinate of a specific line among an infinite amount of parallel lines. I'm downloading a 3d graphing program to get a better look. Thanks to both of you for your time and help. I appreciate it.
 

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