Points of intersection to find area inside a region

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The problem involves using a double integral to find the area of a region defined by the polar equations r = 1 + cos(θ) and r = 2sin(θ). The original poster expresses confusion regarding how to determine the points of intersection of these two curves.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric identities and substitutions to find points of intersection. Some suggest considering the limits of θ, noting that r = 2sin(θ) is only positive for θ in (0, π). Others propose equating the two equations and substituting trigonometric identities to simplify the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different substitution methods and simplifications. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet, but some guidance has been offered regarding the use of specific trigonometric identities.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there are no limits imposed on θ in the original problem statement, but some suggest restricting θ to the interval [0, π] based on the behavior of the equations involved.

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Use a dounble integral to find the area of the region inside r = 1+ cos (theta) and outside r = 2sin (theta). sketch region and indecate the points of intersection.

I'm confused how to find the points of intersection of these two equations

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I've tried several trig identities and i just can't seem to get it. Can anyone help me get started on this problem??
 
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have you tried some double/half angle formula?
 
also are there any limits put on theta in the question. Note [itex]r = 2 sin(\theta)[/itex] is only positive for [itex]\theta \in (0,\pi)[/itex]
 
there's no limits to theta. I have tried half and double angle formulas but I keep getting stuck.
 
ok, well a negative radius doesn't make much sense to me, so assume we're only working in
[itex]\theta \in [0,\pi][/itex]

so how about equating [itex]r = 1- cos(\theta)[/itex]and [itex]r = 2sin(\theta)[/itex], then substituting:
[tex]cos(\theta) = 1-2sin^2(\theta/2)[/tex]
[tex]sin(\theta) = 2sin(\theta/2)cos(\theta/2)[/tex]
 
So after substituting that, I used sin(Θ/2) = ( 1-cosΘ / 2)^(1/2) and cos(Θ/2) = (1+cosΘ / 2)
at the end i got 2 = 2 (1-cos^2(Θ) )^(1/2) + (1-cosΘ) / 2
I'm not sure what to do after this. Did I take it a whole wrong direction?
 
i think so, just try the first substitution & some simplification and see how you go, i got to an equation something like
[tex]tan(\theta/2) = \frac{1}{2}[/tex]
and thought that was enough to solve for
 

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