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The discussion revolves around evaluating the arc length of a curve defined by parametric equations in the context of conic sections. The specific equations given are x=5cos(t)-cos(5t) and y=5sin(t)-sin(5t).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are discussing how to determine the appropriate interval for evaluating the arc length of the given parametric equations. Some express confusion about the relationship between the equations and conic sections, while others suggest potential intervals such as 0 to 2π or 0 to π.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the correct interval for evaluation, with some participants questioning the nature of the equations and their classification as conic sections. Suggestions for intervals are being discussed, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the conversion between degrees and radians, as well as the implications of the chosen interval on the evaluation of the arc length.

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Were on the conic section. I need help how to choose the right interval to evaluate the arc lengh. x=5cost-cos5t and y=5sint-sin5t . I don't get how to choose the inverval to evaluate this, can someone pleasse tell me how. I just don't grasp this.
 
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[tex]= \int_{a}^{b} \sqrt { [x'(t)]^2 + [y'(t)]^2 }\, dt.[/tex]

5 cos(t) - cos(5t) and 5 sin(t)- sin(5t) will no doubt fall within an area between [itex]x\pi \theta[/itex] and [itex]x\pi\theta[/itex] do you know how to work that out? Or how to work out appropriate ranges for cos and sin?

Personally I'd chose something like between 0 and [itex]\pi[/itex]... or 0 and [itex]2\pi[/itex]
 
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th3plan said:
Were on the conic section. I need help how to choose the right interval to evaluate the arc lengh. x=5cost-cos5t and y=5sint-sin5t . I don't get how to choose the inverval to evaluate this, can someone pleasse tell me how. I just don't grasp this.

Those parametric equations do NOT give a conic section.

You can, however, cover the figure by letting t go from 0 to [itex]2\pi[/itex]
 
how do i mathematically find the right interval to evaulate it ?
 
th3plan said:
how do i mathematically find the right interval to evaulate it ?

Which range will your shape fall in?

It's between the range of 0 and 360 degrees (or a full circle) right? In that case what is the range/interval in degrees to radians? Couldn't be 0 to 2[itex]\pi[/itex] could it?

[tex]\text{radians}=\text{degrees}\times\frac{\pi\;\text{radians}}{180}[/tex]

[tex]\text{degrees}=\text{radians}\times\frac{180}{\pi\;\text{radians}}[/tex]
 
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