Poloidal current in toroidal solenoid

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The discussion focuses on defining the current density for a poloidal current in a toroidal solenoid using Mathematica. The participant outlines the geometric definition of a torus through conical and spherical rings and presents the mathematical expression for the poloidal current density. The inquiry also addresses the smoothness of the torus and its homeomorphism to the standard torus, alongside a request for expressing current density in spherical coordinates for a standard toroidal solenoid.

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Hi, I'm trying to figure out how the current density for a poloidal current in toroidal solenoid is written. I found you may define a torus by an upper conical ring ##(a<r<b,\theta=\theta_1,\phi)##, a lower conical ring ##(a<r<b,\theta=\theta_2,\phi)##, an inner spherical ring ##(r=a,\theta_{1}<\theta<\theta_{2},\phi)## and an outter spherical ring ##(r=b,\theta_{1}<\theta<\theta_{2},\phi)##. I used Mathematica to illustrate the torus generated with this definition:

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So, the poloidal current density may be weitten:

\mathbf{J}(\mathbf{r})=\frac{NI}{2\pi r\sin\theta}\lbrace\frac{\hat{r}}{r}[\delta(\theta-\theta_{1})-\delta(\theta-\theta_{2})][\Theta(r-a)-\Theta(r-b)]+\hat{\theta}[\delta(r-b)-\delta(r-a)][\Theta(\theta-\theta_{1})-\Theta(\theta-\theta_{2})]\rbrace
My question is: is that definition of a torus correct? my problem here is that this torus is not smooth, so I don't know if it is homeomorphic to the standard torus (I don't know much about Topology). Also I would like to know if there is a possible way to write a current density in spherical coordinates for a poloidal current in a standard toroidal solenoid:

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Thank you for your answers (:
 
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Mr. Rho said:
my problem here is that this torus is not smooth, so I don't know if it is homeomorphic to the standard torus (I don't know much about Topology).
It is, but I don't see how this could be relevant in a physics problem.
Mr. Rho said:
Also I would like to know if there is a possible way to write a current density in spherical coordinates for a poloidal current in a standard toroidal solenoid:
Sure, but the equations could get messy.
 
mfb said:
It is, but I don't see how this could be relevant in a physics problem.
Sure, but the equations could get messy.

Thank you, I'm studying the multipole expansion of EM fields for such toroidal solenoid but I want to feel confortable with the current density before start to calculate things...
 

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