Position & Velocity of Golf Ball Dropped from Empire State Building

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The discussion revolves around calculating the position and velocity of a golf ball dropped from the Empire State Building, specifically focusing on the effects of gravity while neglecting air resistance. The subject area includes kinematics and basic physics principles related to motion under constant acceleration.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between acceleration and velocity, questioning how to apply kinematic equations. Some express confusion about the calculations and the concepts of acceleration and velocity, while others attempt to clarify these relationships.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on the calculations and the underlying physics concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of acceleration to determine velocity over time, and there are multiple interpretations of the problem being explored.

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Participants mention varying levels of familiarity with physics concepts, including kinematic equations and energy conservation, which may affect their understanding of the problem. There is also a note about the neglect of air resistance in the calculations.

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Neglecting air resistance, calculate the position (in meters) and velocity
(in m/s) of a golf ball that is dropped from the empire state building after 1.0s, 2.0s, and 3.0 s with the release point.
 
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One is expected to some some effort in answering the question...
 
all i need is the equation to solve this problem... not the answer...

i'm partially leaning toward, v=delta(d)/delta(t) a=delta(v)/delta(t)
 
After the ball is release, what force(s) are acting on the ball?
 
9.8m/s, which is gravity
 
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ganon00 said:
im guessing 9.8m/s, which is gravity
That is an acceleration, not a force, but it was where I was leading to so no worries. Now, if an object starts at rest and accelerates at 9.8m/s2 (note the squared as opposed to your units) how fast will be be traveling after one second?
 
9.8meters after 1 second
then is it doubled and tripled after 2 and 3 seconds
 
ganon00 said:
9.8meters after 1 second
then is it doubled and tripled after 2 and 3 seconds
I said how fast not how far.
 
how fast...9.8m/s

this is where I am stuck i don't know... terminal velocity I am guessing

so possibly 75mi/hr after 5 seconds
 
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ganon00 said:
how fast...9.8m/s
Yes, that is correct. Have you met kinematic equations before? If not are you comfortable with energy conservation?
 
  • #11
no i do not know kinematic equations, but i do know a little about energy conservation...note: i have only been familiar with physics for about a week now.0.5m/s after 1.0seconds... possibly
 
  • #12
i got 0.5m/s by solving for acceleration by dividing the change in velocity/over the time taken
 
  • #13
i crunched a few numbers and I am coming up with this for the answer is this correct:

after 1.0seconds its speed is 0.5m/s
after 2.0seconds its speed is 1.0m/s
after 3.0seconds its speed is 1.5m/s
 
  • #14
ganon00 said:
i crunched a few numbers and I am coming up with this for the answer is this correct:

after 1.0seconds its speed is 0.5m/s
after 2.0seconds its speed is 1.0m/s
after 3.0seconds its speed is 1.5m/s

What are you doing? You have given me the correct answer in one of your above posts;

after 1.0 second speed = 9.8m/s
after 2.0 seconds speed = 2 x 9.8 m/s
after 3.0 seconds speed = 3 x 9.8 m/s

Do you follow?
 
  • #15
so all i have to do to get the answer is to multiply 9.8 by two and 3

there has to be more than thatim really trying to understand
 
  • #16
there is not more than that--you are over complicating the simple concept of acceleration. 1m/s^2 means one meter per second PER SECOND. which means that every second it is going one meter per second faster. so 9.8 m/(ss) means 9.8 after one second, 9.8*2 after two and so on.
do you know any calculus?
 
  • #17
Yeah...this is an incredibly easy physics question , you're stressing too much over it.
 
  • #18
acceleration = velocity/time
velocity = acceleration * time
Thats all there is to the velocity part. Because you are neglecting air resistance, the ball will continue to accelerate infinitely with no terminal velocity.
Distance is a little trickier, you need the kinematic d=vo+.5at^2, which simplifies to 1/2at^2 in your case. When you do calculus, youll realize that this relationship between distance and acceleration is an anti-derivative and there's a reason for that. But for now, just plug and chug
 
  • #19
ok i think then i got the answer to you the prob...

after 1.0seconds its speed is 9.8m/s
after 2.0seconds its speed is 19.6m/s
after 3.0seconds its speed is 29.4m/s


and i haven't taken calculus yet just algebra 2 I'm a freshman in high school.
 

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