Positive Charge Magnetic Fields: Real World Examples

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the existence and observation of magnetic fields generated by positive charge flow, particularly in real-world scenarios. Participants explore various contexts, including laboratory settings and practical applications, while questioning the commonality of such observations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether there are known examples of positive particle flow creating a magnetic field, specifically in contexts like electrolyte ion flow.
  • Another participant suggests that a positive charge in an accelerator serves as an example, implying that this may answer the initial query.
  • A different participant expresses a desire for examples that are more commonly observable in typical physics labs.
  • One participant proposes a thought experiment involving transforming a current-carrying wire into the rest frame of electrons, suggesting that the magnetic field would then be due to the motion of protons.
  • A later reply mentions the possibility of using a leaf electroscope charged positively and moving it near compasses to observe magnetic effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of commonly observable examples of positive charge-induced magnetic fields, with some suggesting specific instances while others seek broader applications.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions hinge on the definitions of current and charge flow, and the assumptions about the conditions under which magnetic fields are generated by positive charges remain unresolved.

Windadct
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As a SP phenomena I thought this may be the best sub to post this.

We understand how current creates a magnetic field, and almost all forms of current are really electron flow. My question is - are there any known (real world) examples of positive particle flow, creating a magnetic field?

For example - if there is positive ion flow in an electrolyte - have people observed the expected / corresponding Magnetic field?

Or - if we have a positively charged piece of material, when we move it, can we easily detect the magnetic field it would create?

It seems like this should be "do able" but I have not seen it.

If - any examples of this being put to good use? ( Yes a positive charge in an accelerator is a case - but I am thinking of anything more commonly observed.)
 
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I was thinking more that is commonly observable - in typical physics lab.
 
If you transform a current carrying wire into the rest frame of the electrons then the magnetic field must be due to the motion of the protons. Figure out the electron drift velocity, mount the wire on a cart and your magnetometer on the bench?
 
Windadct said:
I was thinking more that is commonly observable - in typical physics lab.
Why? Are you a physics educator preparing an exercise for students? If so, please see the link I posted in my previous reply. It includes a discussion about the magnitude of the fields detected.
 
Hi. We can make a leaf electroscope in our laboratory charged positive. Then try moving it near compasses.
 

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