Possibility of a smoothly wavelength-tunable x-ray/EUV source

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The discussion revolves around the potential for developing a smoothly wavelength-tunable x-ray or EUV source. Participants explore various methods and technologies that could enable such tunability, including theoretical and practical applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests four possible directions for creating a tunable source: gas discharge (limited to EUV), beta rays collision with metals (limited to x-ray), LC-circuit (considered speculative), and free electron lasers (information lacking).
  • Another participant proposes using atomic lattices in crystals as diffraction gratings to potentially tune x-ray wavelengths, drawing a parallel to spectrophotometers.
  • A later reply acknowledges the idea of using a classic x-ray source with a crystal for wavelength alteration but raises concerns about efficiency due to the presence of multiple wavelengths in the diffraction result.
  • One participant confirms that the spectrophotometer approach involves breaking light into a spectrum and selecting specific wavelengths, noting that efficiency is not a concern in that context.
  • Another participant points out that a full spectrum of x-rays is typically produced by synchrotron light sources, which may be necessary for effective wavelength separation.

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Participants express varying opinions on the feasibility and efficiency of different methods for achieving wavelength tunability. There is no consensus on the best approach, and multiple competing views remain regarding the practicality of the proposed solutions.

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Participants highlight limitations related to efficiency and the requirement for a full spectrum of wavelengths for effective tuning. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the current state of technology and the viability of proposed methods.

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Such a device would be a major breakthrough for both research and practical usage. This is not my area of expertise; therefore I hope to get some help here.

AFAIK there are four possible directions:

1. Gas discharge. It seems not to be tunable and could be applied for EUV only.
2. Beta rays collision with metals. It seems not to be tunable as well and could be applied for x-ray only
3. LC-circuit. Actually this is a science fiction. Unless doing it on nano level.
4. Free electron laser. I don't have any information about it.

Any comments, additions and corrections are more than welcome!

Thank you in advance!
 
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Now obviously you aren't going to be able to decrease the wavelength (higher energy) with something like this, but x-rays are on the right wavelength for atomic lattices in a crystal to act as a diffraction grating. In that case, might it be possible to tune the wavelength using a crystal as a diffraction grating in a manner similar to that done in spectrophotometers?
 
uncanny_man said:
Now obviously you aren't going to be able to decrease the wavelength (higher energy) with something like this, but x-rays are on the right wavelength for atomic lattices in a crystal to act as a diffraction grating. In that case, might it be possible to tune the wavelength using a crystal as a diffraction grating in a manner similar to that done in spectrophotometers?
Interesting approach! I wonder whether any realization of your idea already exists...

So, basically, you are talking about using a classic x-ray source (or even EUV?) along with some cristal which is supposed to allow altering of the original wavelength. The only problem here is efficiency, because the result of such a diffraction will consist of rays of other wavelengths too.
 
Absolutely. This is the approach often used in spectrophotometers: you break the light up into a rainbow and use a narrow slit to select a very specific wavelength range. That said, for a spectrophotometer you don't need to worry about the efficiency (obviously most of your light's energy is wasted). Are you in a situation where that matters?
 
Oh yeah, you could only really separate out the light and select a wavelength if all of the wavelengths were present in the first place. Unfortunately, for a good intense beam of the full spectrum of x-rays, that pretty much leaves you using a synchrotron for your light source (from Brehmsstrahlung radiation).
 

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