Possible Quantum Number Combinations for 2p State

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The discussion focuses on identifying the quantum number combinations for the 2p state, specifically for an atom with two electrons in this state. The quantum numbers are defined as follows: n=2, l=1, m_l can take values of -1, 0, or 1, and m_s can be either -1/2 or 1/2. The total number of unique states for two electrons in the 2p configuration is determined by ensuring that no two electrons can have identical quantum numbers, leading to various valid combinations of m_l and m_s values.

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Homework Statement


List all possible values for the quantum numbers n, l, m_l and m_s for a state 2p. If an atom has 2 electrons 2p, how many states are there?

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Simple ones.

The Attempt at a Solution


n=2.
l=1.
m_l=-1, 0, 1.
m_s=-1/2, 1/2.
Now I'm confused on how to answer the question.
2 electrons in 2p means 2 electrons with quantum numbers:
(n,l,m_l,m_s)=
(2,1,-1,1/2) and (2,1,-1,-1/2)
or (2,1,-1,-1/2) and (2,1,-1,-1/2)
or (2,1,-1,1/2) and (2,1,0,1/2)
or (2,1,-1,1/2) and (2,1,0,-1/2)
or (2,1,0,1/2) and (2,1,-1,1/2)
or etc.
I mean an electron can have a certain m_l while the other can have any other m_l incuding the same m_l as the first electron. When they have the same m_l, they must have opposite spin. Is this ok?
 
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Yes, the only requirement is that the electrons must not have the same quantum numbers. If 3 of them are identical, the 4th is forced to have different values among them.
 
dextercioby said:
Yes, the only requirement is that the electrons must not have the same quantum numbers. If 3 of them are identical, the 4th is forced to have different values among them.
Ok thank you. :smile:
 

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